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From: "Leonardo Brás" <leobras@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:06:46 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e61ab53e1419a144f774b95230b789244895424.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9DpbVF+JR/G+5Or@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 09:33 +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 25-01-23 04:34:57, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > Disclaimer:
> > a - The cover letter got bigger than expected, so I had to split it in
> >     sections to better organize myself. I am not very confortable with it.
> > b - Performance numbers below did not include patch 5/5 (Remove flags
> >     from memcg_stock_pcp), which could further improve performance for
> >     drain_all_stock(), but I could only notice the optimization at the
> >     last minute.
> > 
> > 
> > 0 - Motivation:
> > On current codebase, when drain_all_stock() is ran, it will schedule a
> > drain_local_stock() for each cpu that has a percpu stock associated with a
> > descendant of a given root_memcg.
> > 
> > This happens even on 'isolated cpus', a feature commonly used on workloads that
> > are sensitive to interruption and context switching such as vRAN and Industrial
> > Control Systems.
> > 
> > Since this scheduling behavior is a problem to those workloads, the proposal is
> > to replace the current local_lock + schedule_work_on() solution with a per-cpu
> > spinlock.
> 
> If IIRC we have also discussed that isolated CPUs can simply opt out
> from the pcp caching and therefore the problem would be avoided
> altogether without changes to the locking scheme. I do not see anything
> regarding that in this submission. Could you elaborate why you have
> abandoned this option?

Hello Michal,

I understand pcp caching is a nice to have.
So while I kept the idea of disabling pcp caching in mind as an option, I first
tried to understand what kind of impacts we would be seeing when trying to
change the locking scheme.

After I raised the data in the cover letter, I found that the performance impact
appears not be that big. So in order to try keeping the pcp cache on isolated
cpus active, I decided to focus effort on the locking scheme change.

I mean, my rationale is: if is there a non-expensive way of keeping the feature,
why should we abandon it?

Best regards,
Leo









  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-25 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25  7:34 [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25  7:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm/memcontrol: Align percpu memcg_stock to cache Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25  7:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm/memcontrol: Change stock_lock type from local_lock_t to spinlock_t Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25  7:35 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm/memcontrol: Reorder memcg_stock_pcp members to avoid holes Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25  7:35 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/memcontrol: Perform all stock drain in current CPU Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25  7:35 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm/memcontrol: Remove flags from memcg_stock_pcp Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining Michal Hocko
2023-01-25 11:06   ` Leonardo Brás [this message]
2023-01-25 11:39     ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-25 18:22     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-25 23:14       ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26  7:41         ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 18:03           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-26 19:20             ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27  0:32               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-27  6:58                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-01 18:31               ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 23:12           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-27  7:11             ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27  7:22               ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27  8:12                 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27  9:23                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 13:03                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-27 13:58               ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 18:18                 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-03 15:21                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-03 19:25                     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-13 13:36                       ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27  7:14             ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27  7:20               ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27  7:35                 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27  9:29                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 19:29                     ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 23:50                       ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 18:19         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-27  5:40           ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-26  2:01       ` Hillf Danton
2023-01-26  7:45       ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 18:14         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-26 19:13           ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27  6:55             ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-31 11:35               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-02-01  4:36                 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-02-01 12:52                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-01 12:41                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-04  4:55                   ` Leonardo Brás
2023-02-05 19:49                     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-07  3:18                       ` Leonardo Brás

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