From: "Leonardo Brás" <leobras@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 02:40:28 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ec001ba093e21a5ac2cafa1c61810b035daf13d.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9LEQfX5dkEyBOkT@tpad>
On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 15:19 -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 03:14:48PM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 03:22:00PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 08:06:46AM -0300, Leonardo Brás wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 09:33 +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > On Wed 25-01-23 04:34:57, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > > > > > Disclaimer:
> > > > > > a - The cover letter got bigger than expected, so I had to split it in
> > > > > > sections to better organize myself. I am not very confortable with it.
> > > > > > b - Performance numbers below did not include patch 5/5 (Remove flags
> > > > > > from memcg_stock_pcp), which could further improve performance for
> > > > > > drain_all_stock(), but I could only notice the optimization at the
> > > > > > last minute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 0 - Motivation:
> > > > > > On current codebase, when drain_all_stock() is ran, it will schedule a
> > > > > > drain_local_stock() for each cpu that has a percpu stock associated with a
> > > > > > descendant of a given root_memcg.
> >
> > Do you know what caused those drain_all_stock() calls? I wonder if we should look
> > into why we have many of them and whether we really need them?
> >
> > It's either some user's actions (e.g. reducing memory.max), either some memcg
> > is entering pre-oom conditions. In the latter case a lot of drain calls can be
> > scheduled without a good reason (assuming the cgroup contain multiple tasks running
> > on multiple cpus). Essentially each cpu will try to grab the remains of the memory quota
> > and move it locally. I wonder in such circumstances if we need to disable the pcp-caching
> > on per-cgroup basis.
> >
> > Generally speaking, draining of pcpu stocks is useful only if an idle cpu is holding some
> > charges/memcg references (it might be not completely idle, but running some very special
> > workload which is not doing any kernel allocations or a process belonging to the root memcg).
> > In all other cases pcpu stock will be either drained naturally by an allocation from another
> > memcg or an allocation from the same memcg will "restore" it, making draining useless.
> >
> > We also can into drain_all_pages() opportunistically, without waiting for the result.
> > On a busy system it's most likely useless, we might oom before scheduled works will be executed.
> >
> > I admit I planned to do some work around and even started, but then never had enough time to
> > finish it.
> >
> > Overall I'm somewhat resistant to an idea of making generic allocation & free paths slower
> > for an improvement of stock draining. It's not a strong objection, but IMO we should avoid
> > doing this without a really strong reason.
>
> The expectation would be that cache locking should not cause slowdown of
> the allocation and free paths:
>
> https://manualsbrain.com/en/manuals/1246877/?page=313
>
> For the P6 and more recent processor families, if the area of memory being locked
> during a LOCK operation is cached in the processor that is performing the LOCK oper-
> ation as write-back memory and is completely contained in a cache line, the
> processor may not assert the LOCK# signal on the bus. Instead, it will modify the
> memory location internally and allow it’s cache coherency mechanism to insure that
> the operation is carried out atomically. This operation is called “cache locking.” The
> cache coherency mechanism automatically prevents two or more processors that ...
>
>
Just to keep the info easily available: the protected structure (struct
memcg_stock_pcp) fits in 48 Bytes, which is less than the usual 64B cacheline.
struct memcg_stock_pcp {
spinlock_t stock_lock; /* 0 4 */
unsigned int nr_pages; /* 4 4 */
struct mem_cgroup * cached; /* 8 8 */
struct obj_cgroup * cached_objcg; /* 16 8 */
struct pglist_data * cached_pgdat; /* 24 8 */
unsigned int nr_bytes; /* 32 4 */
int nr_slab_reclaimable_b; /* 36 4 */
int nr_slab_unreclaimable_b; /* 40 4 */
/* size: 48, cachelines: 1, members: 8 */
/* padding: 4 */
/* last cacheline: 48 bytes */
};
(It got smaller after patches 3/5, 4/5 and 5/5, which remove holes, work_struct
and flags respectively.)
On top of that, patch 1/5 makes sure the percpu allocation is aligned to
cacheline size.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-27 5:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-25 7:34 [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm/memcontrol: Align percpu memcg_stock to cache Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm/memcontrol: Change stock_lock type from local_lock_t to spinlock_t Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm/memcontrol: Reorder memcg_stock_pcp members to avoid holes Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/memcontrol: Perform all stock drain in current CPU Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 7:35 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm/memcontrol: Remove flags from memcg_stock_pcp Leonardo Bras
2023-01-25 8:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce memcg_stock_pcp remote draining Michal Hocko
2023-01-25 11:06 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-25 11:39 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-25 18:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-25 23:14 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 7:41 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 18:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-26 19:20 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 0:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-27 6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-01 18:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 23:12 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-27 7:11 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 7:22 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 8:12 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 13:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-27 13:58 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 18:18 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-03 15:21 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-03 19:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-13 13:36 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 7:14 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 7:35 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 9:29 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 19:29 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-27 23:50 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-26 18:19 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-27 5:40 ` Leonardo Brás [this message]
2023-01-26 2:01 ` Hillf Danton
2023-01-26 7:45 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-26 18:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-01-26 19:13 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 6:55 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-01-31 11:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-02-01 4:36 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-02-01 12:52 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-01 12:41 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-04 4:55 ` Leonardo Brás
2023-02-05 19:49 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-07 3:18 ` Leonardo Brás
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