From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Simon Kirby <sim@hostway.ca>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: skip rebalance of hopeless zones
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:55:24 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3KBVZBaOxSeO01N1XXobXTOiSAsZcyv0mJraC@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101208172324.d45911f4.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:36:21 -0800 Simon Kirby <sim@hostway.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 04:16:59PM +0100, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>
>> > Kswapd tries to rebalance zones persistently until their high
>> > watermarks are restored.
>> >
>> > If the amount of unreclaimable pages in a zone makes this impossible
>> > for reclaim, though, kswapd will end up in a busy loop without a
>> > chance of reaching its goal.
>> >
>> > This behaviour was observed on a virtual machine with a tiny
>> > Normal-zone that filled up with unreclaimable slab objects.
>> >
>> > This patch makes kswapd skip rebalancing on such 'hopeless' zones and
>> > leaves them to direct reclaim.
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> We are experiencing a similar issue, though with a 757 MB Normal zone,
>> where kswapd tries to rebalance Normal after an order-3 allocation while
>> page cache allocations (order-0) keep splitting it back up again. It can
>> run the whole day like this (SSD storage) without sleeping.
>
> People at google have told me they've seen the same thing. A fork is
> taking 15 minutes when someone else is doing a dd, because the fork
> enters direct-reclaim trying for an order-one page. It successfully
> frees some order-one pages but before it gets back to allocate one, dd
> has gone and stolen them, or split them apart.
>
> This problem would have got worse when slub came along doing its stupid
> unnecessary high-order allocations.
>
> Billions of years ago a direct-reclaimer had a one-deep cache in the
> task_struct into which it freed the page to prevent it from getting
> stolen.
>
> Later, we took that out because pages were being freed into the
> per-cpu-pages magazine, which is effectively task-local anyway. But
> per-cpu-pages are only for order-0 pages. See slub stupidity, above.
>
> I expect that this is happening so repeatably because the
> direct-reclaimer is dong a sleep somewhere after freeing the pages it
> needs - if it wasn't doing that then surely the window wouldn't be wide
> enough for it to happen so often. But I didn't look.
>
> Suitable fixes might be
>
> a) don't go to sleep after the successful direct-reclaim.
It can't make sure success since direct reclaim needs sleep with !GFP_AOMIC
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-09 1:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-08 15:16 [patch] mm: skip rebalance of hopeless zones Johannes Weiner
2010-12-08 18:05 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-08 22:19 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-09 0:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-12-09 21:17 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-10 16:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-01-05 11:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-01-04 23:56 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-09 0:47 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-09 14:34 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-09 0:36 ` Simon Kirby
2010-12-09 0:49 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-09 1:08 ` Simon Kirby
2010-12-09 14:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-09 1:23 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-09 1:55 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-12-09 1:57 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-09 2:01 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-09 2:19 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-09 5:18 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-09 2:05 ` Simon Kirby
2010-12-09 8:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-12-09 14:46 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-09 14:44 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-09 18:03 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-09 18:48 ` Ying Han
2010-12-10 11:34 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-09 18:39 ` Ying Han
2010-12-10 11:37 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-10 19:46 ` Ying Han
2010-12-09 1:29 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-09 18:51 ` Ying Han
2010-12-10 7:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-10 7:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-10 10:54 ` Johannes Weiner
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