From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:43:22 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9iKQtbwJ-xMTaK1nMDFk1C-JLUXjKk8yzzCfw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110324143541.CC78.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:35 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Hi Minchan,
>
>> Nick's original goal is to prevent OOM killing until all zone we're
>> interested in are unreclaimable and whether zone is reclaimable or not
>> depends on kswapd. And Nick's original solution is just peeking
>> zone->all_unreclaimable but I made it dirty when we are considering
>> kswapd freeze in hibernation. So I think we still need it to handle
>> kswapd freeze problem and we should add original behavior we missed at
>> that time like below.
>>
>> static bool zone_reclaimable(struct zone *zone)
>> {
>> if (zone->all_unreclaimable)
>> return false;
>>
>> return zone->pages_scanned < zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6;
>> }
>>
>> If you remove the logic, the problem Nick addressed would be showed
>> up, again. How about addressing the problem in your patch? If you
>> remove the logic, __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim lose the chance calling
>> dran_all_pages. Of course, it was a side effect but we should handle
>> it.
>
> Ok, you are successfull to persuade me. lost drain_all_pages() chance has
> a risk.
>
>> And my last concern is we are going on right way?
>
>
>> I think fundamental cause of this problem is page_scanned and
>> all_unreclaimable is race so isn't the approach fixing the race right
>> way?
>
> Hmm..
> If we can avoid lock, we should. I think. that's performance reason.
> therefore I'd like to cap the issue in do_try_to_free_pages(). it's
> slow path.
>
> Is the following patch acceptable to you? it is
> o rewrote the description
> o avoid mix to use zone->all_unreclaimable and zone->pages_scanned
> o avoid to reintroduce hibernation issue
> o don't touch fast path
>
>
>> If it is hard or very costly, your and my approach will be fallback.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> From f3d277057ad3a092aa1c94244f0ed0d3ebe5411c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 05:07:48 +0900
> Subject: [PATCH] vmscan: all_unreclaimable() use zone->all_unreclaimable as the name
>
> all_unreclaimable check in direct reclaim has been introduced at 2.6.19
> by following commit.
>
> 2006 Sep 25; commit 408d8544; oom: use unreclaimable info
>
> And it went through strange history. firstly, following commit broke
> the logic unintentionally.
>
> 2008 Apr 29; commit a41f24ea; page allocator: smarter retry of
> costly-order allocations
>
> Two years later, I've found obvious meaningless code fragment and
> restored original intention by following commit.
>
> 2010 Jun 04; commit bb21c7ce; vmscan: fix do_try_to_free_pages()
> return value when priority==0
>
> But, the logic didn't works when 32bit highmem system goes hibernation
> and Minchan slightly changed the algorithm and fixed it .
>
> 2010 Sep 22: commit d1908362: vmscan: check all_unreclaimable
> in direct reclaim path
>
> But, recently, Andrey Vagin found the new corner case. Look,
>
> struct zone {
> ..
> int all_unreclaimable;
> ..
> unsigned long pages_scanned;
> ..
> }
>
> zone->all_unreclaimable and zone->pages_scanned are neigher atomic
> variables nor protected by lock. Therefore zones can become a state
> of zone->page_scanned=0 and zone->all_unreclaimable=1. In this case,
> current all_unreclaimable() return false even though
> zone->all_unreclaimabe=1.
>
> Is this ignorable minor issue? No. Unfortunatelly, x86 has very
> small dma zone and it become zone->all_unreclamble=1 easily. and
> if it become all_unreclaimable=1, it never restore all_unreclaimable=0.
> Why? if all_unreclaimable=1, vmscan only try DEF_PRIORITY reclaim and
> a-few-lru-pages>>DEF_PRIORITY always makes 0. that mean no page scan
> at all!
>
> Eventually, oom-killer never works on such systems. That said, we
> can't use zone->pages_scanned for this purpose. This patch restore
> all_unreclaimable() use zone->all_unreclaimable as old. and in addition,
> to add oom_killer_disabled check to avoid reintroduce the issue of
> commit d1908362.
>
> Reported-by: Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>
> Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
> Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Signed-off-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Thanks for the good discussion, Kosaki.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-24 7:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20110314232156.0c363813.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
[not found] ` <20110315153801.3526.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-22 11:04 ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05 ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 5:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 6:59 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 7:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 8:24 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 8:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 9:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 2:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 2:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 2:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 3:04 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 4:19 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 5:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 5:53 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 6:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 6:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:25 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:34 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:41 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 7:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 7:43 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-03-23 7:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 7:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 13:40 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24 0:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 9:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29 2:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23 1:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 2:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 7:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 8:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28 7:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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