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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:43:22 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9iKQtbwJ-xMTaK1nMDFk1C-JLUXjKk8yzzCfw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110324143541.CC78.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:35 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Hi Minchan,
>
>> Nick's original goal is to prevent OOM killing until all zone we're
>> interested in are unreclaimable and whether zone is reclaimable or not
>> depends on kswapd. And Nick's original solution is just peeking
>> zone->all_unreclaimable but I made it dirty when we are considering
>> kswapd freeze in hibernation. So I think we still need it to handle
>> kswapd freeze problem and we should add original behavior we missed at
>> that time like below.
>>
>> static bool zone_reclaimable(struct zone *zone)
>> {
>>         if (zone->all_unreclaimable)
>>                 return false;
>>
>>         return zone->pages_scanned < zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6;
>> }
>>
>> If you remove the logic, the problem Nick addressed would be showed
>> up, again. How about addressing the problem in your patch? If you
>> remove the logic, __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim lose the chance calling
>> dran_all_pages. Of course, it was a side effect but we should handle
>> it.
>
> Ok, you are successfull to persuade me. lost drain_all_pages() chance has
> a risk.
>
>> And my last concern is we are going on right way?
>
>
>> I think fundamental cause of this problem is page_scanned and
>> all_unreclaimable is race so isn't the approach fixing the race right
>> way?
>
> Hmm..
> If we can avoid lock, we should. I think. that's performance reason.
> therefore I'd like to cap the issue in do_try_to_free_pages(). it's
> slow path.
>
> Is the following patch acceptable to you? it is
>  o rewrote the description
>  o avoid mix to use zone->all_unreclaimable and zone->pages_scanned
>  o avoid to reintroduce hibernation issue
>  o don't touch fast path
>
>
>> If it is hard or very costly, your and my approach will be fallback.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> From f3d277057ad3a092aa1c94244f0ed0d3ebe5411c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 05:07:48 +0900
> Subject: [PATCH] vmscan: all_unreclaimable() use zone->all_unreclaimable as the name
>
> all_unreclaimable check in direct reclaim has been introduced at 2.6.19
> by following commit.
>
>        2006 Sep 25; commit 408d8544; oom: use unreclaimable info
>
> And it went through strange history. firstly, following commit broke
> the logic unintentionally.
>
>        2008 Apr 29; commit a41f24ea; page allocator: smarter retry of
>                                      costly-order allocations
>
> Two years later, I've found obvious meaningless code fragment and
> restored original intention by following commit.
>
>        2010 Jun 04; commit bb21c7ce; vmscan: fix do_try_to_free_pages()
>                                      return value when priority==0
>
> But, the logic didn't works when 32bit highmem system goes hibernation
> and Minchan slightly changed the algorithm and fixed it .
>
>        2010 Sep 22: commit d1908362: vmscan: check all_unreclaimable
>                                      in direct reclaim path
>
> But, recently, Andrey Vagin found the new corner case. Look,
>
>        struct zone {
>          ..
>                int                     all_unreclaimable;
>          ..
>                unsigned long           pages_scanned;
>          ..
>        }
>
> zone->all_unreclaimable and zone->pages_scanned are neigher atomic
> variables nor protected by lock. Therefore zones can become a state
> of zone->page_scanned=0 and zone->all_unreclaimable=1. In this case,
> current all_unreclaimable() return false even though
> zone->all_unreclaimabe=1.
>
> Is this ignorable minor issue? No. Unfortunatelly, x86 has very
> small dma zone and it become zone->all_unreclamble=1 easily. and
> if it become all_unreclaimable=1, it never restore all_unreclaimable=0.
> Why? if all_unreclaimable=1, vmscan only try DEF_PRIORITY reclaim and
> a-few-lru-pages>>DEF_PRIORITY always makes 0. that mean no page scan
> at all!
>
> Eventually, oom-killer never works on such systems. That said, we
> can't use zone->pages_scanned for this purpose. This patch restore
> all_unreclaimable() use zone->all_unreclaimable as old. and in addition,
> to add oom_killer_disabled check to avoid reintroduce the issue of
> commit d1908362.
>
> Reported-by: Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>
> Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
> Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Signed-off-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>

Thanks for the good discussion, Kosaki.

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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-24  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110314232156.0c363813.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found] ` <20110315153801.3526.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-22 11:04   ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05     ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  5:21         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  6:59           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:13             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  8:24               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  8:44                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  9:02                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  2:11                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  2:21                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  2:48                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  3:04                           ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  5:35                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  4:19                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  5:35                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  5:53                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  6:16                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  6:32                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:03                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:25                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:28                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:34                                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:41                                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:43                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:43                           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-03-23  7:41       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:55         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:06     ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:42       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 13:40         ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24  0:06           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:48         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10                 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56                     ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29  2:46                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:08     ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  1:27         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  2:41           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08     ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:44       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09     ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:49       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  8:09         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28  7:00           ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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