From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Deadlock possibly caused by too_many_isolated.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:37:29 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEjJu6Eo6VmaCyuDNpen66SeZGyV84GOcc9TV1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101019022451.GA8310@localhost>
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 06:41:37AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:31:42 +1100
>> Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:58:59 -0700
>> > Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:15:04 +0800
>> > > Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Neil find that if too_many_isolated() returns true while performing
>> > > > direct reclaim we can end up waiting for other threads to complete their
>> > > > direct reclaim. If those threads are allowed to enter the FS or IO to
>> > > > free memory, but this thread is not, then it is possible that those
>> > > > threads will be waiting on this thread and so we get a circular
>> > > > deadlock.
>> > > >
>> > > > some task enters direct reclaim with GFP_KERNEL
>> > > > => too_many_isolated() false
>> > > > => vmscan and run into dirty pages
>> > > > => pageout()
>> > > > => take some FS lock
>> > > > => fs/block code does GFP_NOIO allocation
>> > > > => enter direct reclaim again
>> > > > => too_many_isolated() true
>> > > > => waiting for others to progress, however the other
>> > > > tasks may be circular waiting for the FS lock..
>>
>> I'm assuming that the last four "=>"'s here should have been indented
>> another stop.
>
> Yup. I'll fix it in next post.
>
>> > > > The fix is to let !__GFP_IO and !__GFP_FS direct reclaims enjoy higher
>> > > > priority than normal ones, by honouring them higher throttle threshold.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now !GFP_IOFS reclaims won't be waiting for GFP_IOFS reclaims to
>> > > > progress. They will be blocked only when there are too many concurrent
>> > > > !GFP_IOFS reclaims, however that's very unlikely because the IO-less
>> > > > direct reclaims is able to progress much more faster, and they won't
>> > > > deadlock each other. The threshold is raised high enough for them, so
>> > > > that there can be sufficient parallel progress of !GFP_IOFS reclaims.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure that this is really a full fix. Torsten's analysis does
>> > > appear to point at the real bug: raid1 has code paths which allocate
>> > > more than a single element from a mempool without starting IO against
>> > > previous elements.
>> >
>> > ... point at "a" real bug.
>> >
>> > I think there are two bugs here.
>> > The raid1 bug that Torsten mentions is certainly real (and has been around
>> > for an embarrassingly long time).
>> > The bug that I identified in too_many_isolated is also a real bug and can be
>> > triggered without md/raid1 in the mix.
>> > So this is not a 'full fix' for every bug in the kernel :-),
>
>> > but it could well be a full fix for this particular bug.
>
> Yeah it aims to be a full fix for one bug.
>
>> Can we just delete the too_many_isolated() logic? (Crappy comment
>
> If the two cond_resched() calls can be removed from
> shrink_page_list(), the major cause of too many pages being
> isolated will be gone. However the writeback-waiting logic after
> should_reclaim_stall() will also block the direct reclaimer for long
> time with pages isolated, which may bite under pathological conditions.
>
>> describes what the code does but not why it does it).
>
> Good point. The comment could be improved as follows.
>
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
>
> ---
> Subject: vmscan: comment too_many_isolated()
> From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> Date: Tue Oct 19 09:53:23 CST 2010
>
> Comment "Why it's doing so" rather than "What it does"
> as proposed by Andrew Morton.
>
> Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-14 23:11 Deadlock possibly caused by too_many_isolated Neil Brown
2010-09-15 0:30 ` Rik van Riel
2010-09-15 2:23 ` Neil Brown
2010-09-15 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15 2:54 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15 3:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15 3:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15 3:18 ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-15 3:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15 3:17 ` Neil Brown
2010-09-15 3:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15 8:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15 8:44 ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18 4:14 ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18 5:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 10:58 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-18 23:11 ` Neil Brown
2010-10-19 8:43 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-19 10:06 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 5:57 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 7:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-20 9:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 13:03 ` Jens Axboe
2010-10-22 5:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-22 8:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-22 8:09 ` Jens Axboe
2010-10-24 16:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-25 6:40 ` Neil Brown
2010-10-25 7:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 7:25 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 9:01 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 10:07 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 14:23 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-20 15:35 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 23:31 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-18 16:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-18 21:58 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-18 22:31 ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18 22:41 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-19 0:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19 1:15 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19 1:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19 1:32 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19 2:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19 2:16 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19 2:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19 2:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19 2:52 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19 3:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19 3:09 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19 3:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19 5:11 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19 3:21 ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-19 7:15 ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-19 7:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19 2:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19 2:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19 2:37 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
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