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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Deadlock possibly caused by too_many_isolated.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:37:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEjJu6Eo6VmaCyuDNpen66SeZGyV84GOcc9TV1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101019022451.GA8310@localhost>

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 06:41:37AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:31:42 +1100
>> Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:58:59 -0700
>> > Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:15:04 +0800
>> > > Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Neil find that if too_many_isolated() returns true while performing
>> > > > direct reclaim we can end up waiting for other threads to complete their
>> > > > direct reclaim.  If those threads are allowed to enter the FS or IO to
>> > > > free memory, but this thread is not, then it is possible that those
>> > > > threads will be waiting on this thread and so we get a circular
>> > > > deadlock.
>> > > >
>> > > > some task enters direct reclaim with GFP_KERNEL
>> > > >   => too_many_isolated() false
>> > > >     => vmscan and run into dirty pages
>> > > >       => pageout()
>> > > >         => take some FS lock
>> > > >           => fs/block code does GFP_NOIO allocation
>> > > >             => enter direct reclaim again
>> > > >               => too_many_isolated() true
>> > > >                 => waiting for others to progress, however the other
>> > > >                    tasks may be circular waiting for the FS lock..
>>
>> I'm assuming that the last four "=>"'s here should have been indented
>> another stop.
>
> Yup. I'll fix it in next post.
>
>> > > > The fix is to let !__GFP_IO and !__GFP_FS direct reclaims enjoy higher
>> > > > priority than normal ones, by honouring them higher throttle threshold.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now !GFP_IOFS reclaims won't be waiting for GFP_IOFS reclaims to
>> > > > progress. They will be blocked only when there are too many concurrent
>> > > > !GFP_IOFS reclaims, however that's very unlikely because the IO-less
>> > > > direct reclaims is able to progress much more faster, and they won't
>> > > > deadlock each other. The threshold is raised high enough for them, so
>> > > > that there can be sufficient parallel progress of !GFP_IOFS reclaims.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure that this is really a full fix.  Torsten's analysis does
>> > > appear to point at the real bug: raid1 has code paths which allocate
>> > > more than a single element from a mempool without starting IO against
>> > > previous elements.
>> >
>> > ... point at "a" real bug.
>> >
>> > I think there are two bugs here.
>> > The raid1 bug that Torsten mentions is certainly real (and has been around
>> > for an embarrassingly long time).
>> > The bug that I identified in too_many_isolated is also a real bug and can be
>> > triggered without md/raid1 in the mix.
>> > So this is not a 'full fix' for every bug in the kernel :-),
>
>> > but it could well be a full fix for this particular bug.
>
> Yeah it aims to be a full fix for one bug.
>
>> Can we just delete the too_many_isolated() logic?  (Crappy comment
>
> If the two cond_resched() calls can be removed from
> shrink_page_list(), the major cause of too many pages being
> isolated will be gone. However the writeback-waiting logic after
> should_reclaim_stall() will also block the direct reclaimer for long
> time with pages isolated, which may bite under pathological conditions.
>
>> describes what the code does but not why it does it).
>
> Good point. The comment could be improved as follows.
>
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
>
> ---
> Subject: vmscan: comment too_many_isolated()
> From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> Date: Tue Oct 19 09:53:23 CST 2010
>
> Comment "Why it's doing so" rather than "What it does"
> as proposed by Andrew Morton.
>
> Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>



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      parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-19  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-14 23:11 Deadlock possibly caused by too_many_isolated Neil Brown
2010-09-15  0:30 ` Rik van Riel
2010-09-15  2:23   ` Neil Brown
2010-09-15  2:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  2:54       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:06         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:13           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:18             ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-15  3:31               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:17           ` Neil Brown
2010-09-15  3:47             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  8:28     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  8:44       ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18  4:14         ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18  5:04           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 10:58           ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-18 23:11             ` Neil Brown
2010-10-19  8:43               ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-19 10:06                 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20  5:57                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20  7:05                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-20  9:27                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 13:03                         ` Jens Axboe
2010-10-22  5:37                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-22  8:07                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-22  8:09                               ` Jens Axboe
2010-10-24 16:52                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-25  6:40                                   ` Neil Brown
2010-10-25  7:26                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20  7:25                     ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20  9:01                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 10:07                         ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 14:23                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-20 15:35                         ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 23:31                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-18 16:15           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-18 21:58             ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-18 22:31               ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18 22:41                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-19  0:57                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  1:15                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  1:21                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  1:32                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  2:03                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  2:16                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  2:54                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  2:35                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19  2:52                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  3:05                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19  3:09                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  3:13                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  5:11                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  3:21                               ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-19  7:15                                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-19  7:34                                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  2:24                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19  2:37                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  2:37                     ` Minchan Kim [this message]

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