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From: Corrado Zoccolo <czoccolo@gmail.com>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Aidar Kultayev <the.aidar@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: 2.6.36 io bring the system to its knees
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:49:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimc4wphG4BXv=rN8MVvFDhnkjtWn_hgHzyJVucw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101031023145.GB1869@thunk.org>

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 07:02:35PM +0600, Aidar Kultayev wrote:
>> the system is/was doing :
>> .dd if=/dev/zero of=test.10g bs=1M count=10000;rm test.10g
>> .netbeans
>> .compiling gcc-4.5.1
>> .running VBox, which wasn't doing any IO. The guest os was idle in other words
>> .vlc
>> .chromium
>> .firefox
>> and bunch of other small stuff.
>>
>> Even without having running DD, the mouse cursor would occasionally
>> lag. The alt+tab effect in KWin would take 5+seconds to workout.
>> When I run DD on top of the workload it consistently made system much
>> more laggy. The cursor would freeze much more frequent. It is like if
>> you drag your mouse physically, but the cursor on the screen would
>> jump discretely, in other words there is no continuity.
>> Music would stop.
>
> If you start shutting down tasks, Vbox, netbeans, chromium, etc., at
> what point does the cursor start tracking the system easily?  Is the
> system swapping?  Do you know how to use tools like dstat or iostat to
> see if the system is actively writing to the swap partition?  (And are
> you using a swap partition or a swap file?)
>
> The fact that cursor isn't tracking well even when the dd is running,
> and presumably the only source of I/O is the gcc and vlc, makes me
> suspect that you may be swapping pretty heavily.  Have you tried
> investigating that possibility, and made sure it has been ruled out?

Something to try is also to raise X cpu scheduling priority, since I
would be really surprised if we evict from memory the routine that
draws the cursor.
BTW, I've seen the cursor jumping problem even when not swapping, and
with minimal *real* disk activity (but with heavy usage of a fuse
filesystem providing remote resources), and high cpu activity.
Raising X priority solved the problem with the mouse pointer, but the
gui programs still didn't respond quickly...

Thanks
Corrado

>
>                                                - Ted
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-31 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-10-28  6:09     ` 2.6.36 io bring the system to its knees Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-28  6:32       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28  9:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-28  9:34           ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28 11:16           ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28 11:33             ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-28 11:48               ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28 12:18                 ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-28 13:46                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-28 13:54                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-28 13:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-28 13:47               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-28 13:50                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-28 17:01               ` Chris Mason
2010-10-28 17:57                 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-29 14:52                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-29 15:33                     ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-30  9:14                       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-30 13:02                         ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-30 19:06                           ` Chris Mason
2010-10-31  2:31                           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-31 17:49                             ` Corrado Zoccolo [this message]
2010-11-02  3:10                           ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-02 11:47                 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2010-11-02 13:12                   ` Chris Mason
2010-11-04 16:05                     ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2010-11-04 23:35                       ` Steven Barrett
2010-11-04 23:44                 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-04 23:48                   ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-05  1:43                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-05 12:48                       ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2010-11-06 14:10                         ` dave b
2010-11-06 15:12                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-07  6:06                             ` dave b
2010-11-07 12:08                           ` Jens Axboe
2010-11-07 15:50                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-10  1:32                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-10  2:01                                 ` dave b
2010-11-10  8:08                                 ` Evgeniy Ivanov
2010-11-10  8:24                                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-10 14:22                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-10 14:20                                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-10 14:27                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-10 14:55                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-10 19:09                                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-10 14:33                                 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-10 14:57                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-10 15:00                                     ` Chris Mason
2010-11-10 23:36                                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-10 15:59                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-10 16:46                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-10 16:55                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-10 17:10                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-10 18:55                                         ` Mark Lord
2010-11-10 18:27                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-10 23:43                                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-06 19:10                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-11-07 17:16                       ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-09 19:47                         ` Evgeniy Ivanov
2010-11-09 20:20                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-09 21:00                       ` Chris Mason
2010-10-31  1:22       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-31  1:51         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01  1:09           ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2010-11-02  1:20             ` Wu Fengguang

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