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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:34:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTinsabm-AHTdc2X550jkAqb=TrBLfrk5CV-WEjGx@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110324171319.GA20182@redhat.com>

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I am wondering, can't we set FAULT_FLAG_KILLABLE unconditionally
> but check PF_USER when we get VM_FAULT_RETRY? I mean,
>
>        if ((fault & VM_FAULT_RETRY) && fatal_signal_pending(current)) {
>                if (!(error_code & PF_USER))
>                        no_context(...);
>                return;
>        }

I agree, we should do this.

> Probably not... but I can't find any example of in-kernel fault which
> can be broken by -EFAULT if current was killed.

There's no way that can validly break anything, since any such
codepath has to be able to handle -EFAULT for other reasons anyway.

The only issue is whether we're ok with a regular write() system call
(for example) not being atomic in the presence of a fatal signal. So
it does change semantics, but I think it changes it in a good way
(technically POSIX requires atomicity, but on the other hand,
technically POSIX also doesn't talk about the process being killed,
and writes would still be atomic for the case where they actually
return. Not to mention NFS etc where writes have never been atomic
anyway, so a program that relies on strict "all or nothing" write
behavior is fundamentally broken to begin with).

                         Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-24 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110314232156.0c363813.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found] ` <20110315153801.3526.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-22 11:04   ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05     ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  5:21         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  6:59           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:13             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  8:24               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  8:44                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  9:02                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  2:11                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  2:21                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  2:48                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  3:04                           ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  5:35                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  4:19                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  5:35                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  5:53                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  6:16                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  6:32                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:03                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:25                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:28                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:34                                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:41                                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:43                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:43                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:41       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:55         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:06     ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:42       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 13:40         ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24  0:06           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:48         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10                 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56                     ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29  2:46                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:08     ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  1:27         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  2:41           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08     ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:44       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09     ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:49       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  8:09         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2011-03-28  7:00           ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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