From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Hiroyuki Kamezawa <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:51:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=AZG4LKUdeODB0uP=_CVBRnGs_Nw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110602075028.GB20630@cmpxchg.org>
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:05:18PM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Hiroyuki Kamezawa
>> <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2011/6/1 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> this is the second version of the memcg naturalization series. The
>> >> notable changes since the first submission are:
>> >>
>> >> o the hierarchy walk is now intermittent and will abort and
>> >> remember the last scanned child after sc->nr_to_reclaim pages
>> >> have been reclaimed during the walk in one zone (Rik)
>> >>
>> >> o the global lru lists are never scanned when memcg is enabled
>> >> after #2 'memcg-aware global reclaim', which makes this patch
>> >> self-sufficient and complete without requiring the per-memcg lru
>> >> lists to be exclusive (Michal)
>> >>
>> >> o renamed sc->memcg and sc->current_memcg to sc->target_mem_cgroup
>> >> and sc->mem_cgroup and fixed their documentation, I hope this is
>> >> better understandable now (Rik)
>> >>
>> >> o the reclaim statistic counters have been renamed. there is no
>> >> more distinction between 'pgfree' and 'pgsteal', it is now
>> >> 'pgreclaim' in both cases; 'kswapd' has been replaced by
>> >> 'background'
>> >>
>> >> o fixed a nasty crash in the hierarchical soft limit check that
>> >> happened during global reclaim in memcgs that are hierarchical
>> >> but have no hierarchical parents themselves
>> >>
>> >> o properly implemented the memcg-aware unevictable page rescue
>> >> scanner, there were several blatant bugs in there
>> >>
>> >> o documentation on new public interfaces
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your input on the first version.
>> >>
>> >> I ran microbenchmarks (sparse file catting, essentially) to stress
>> >> reclaim and LRU operations. There is no measurable overhead for
>> >> !CONFIG_MEMCG, memcg disabled during boot, memcg enabled but no
>> >> configured groups, and hard limit reclaim.
>> >>
>> >> I also ran single-threaded kernbenchs in four unlimited memcgs in
>> >> parallel, contained in a hard-limited hierarchical parent that put
>> >> constant pressure on the workload. There is no measurable difference
>> >> in runtime, the pgpgin/pgpgout counters, and fairness among memcgs in
>> >> this test compared to an unpatched kernel. Needs more evaluation,
>> >> especially with a higher number of memcgs.
>> >>
>> >> The soft limit changes are also proven to work in so far that it is
>> >> possible to prioritize between children in a hierarchy under pressure
>> >> and that runtime differences corresponded directly to the soft limit
>> >> settings in the previously described kernbench setup with staggered
>> >> soft limits on the groups, but this needs quantification.
>> >>
>> >> Based on v2.6.39.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Hmm, I welcome and will review this patches but.....some points I want to say.
>> >
>> > 1. No more conflict with Ying's work ?
>> > Could you explain what she has and what you don't in this v2 ?
>> > If Ying's one has something good to be merged to your set, please
>> > include it.
>>
>> My patch I sent out last time was doing rework of soft_limit reclaim.
>> It convert the RB-tree based to
>> a linked list round-robin fashion of all memcgs across their soft
>> limit per-zone.
>>
>> I will apply this patch and try to test it. After that i will get
>> better idea whether or not it is being covered here.
>
> Thanks!!
>
>> > 4. This work can be splitted into some small works.
>> > a) fix for current code and clean ups
>>
>> > a') statistics
>>
>> > b) soft limit rework
>>
>> > c) change global reclaim
>>
>> My last patchset starts with a patch reverting the RB-tree
>> implementation of the soft_limit
>> reclaim, and then the new round-robin implementation comes on the
>> following patches.
>>
>> I like the ordering here, and that is consistent w/ the plan we
>> discussed earlier in LSF. Changing
>> the global reclaim would be the last step when the changes before that
>> have been well understood
>> and tested.
>>
>> Sorry If that is how it is done here. I will read through the patchset.
>
> It's not. The way I implemented soft limits depends on global reclaim
> performing hierarchical reclaim. I don't see how I can reverse the
> order with this dependency.
That is something I don't quite get yet, and maybe need a closer look
into the patchset. The current design of
soft_limit doesn't do reclaim hierarchically but instead links the
memcgs together on per-zone basis.
However on this patchset, we changed that design and doing
hierarchy_walk of the memcg tree. Can we clarify more on why we made
the design change? I can see the current design provides a efficient
way to pick the one memcg over-their-soft-limit under shrink_zone().
--Ying
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-02 15:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-01 6:25 [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 1/8] memcg: remove unused retry signal from reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 2/8] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:59 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 15:01 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 16:14 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08 9:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 9:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-09 16:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 13:12 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-09 13:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 15:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 17:23 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 23:41 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 23:47 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-10 0:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10 0:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11 20:39 ` Ying Han
2011-08-11 21:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 7:15 ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 7:22 ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 7:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30 6:08 ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 19:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 20:36 ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 21:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30 7:07 ` Ying Han
2011-08-30 15:14 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-31 22:58 ` Ying Han
2011-09-21 8:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 8:07 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 3/8] memcg: reclaim statistics Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 4/8] memcg: rework soft limit reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 5:37 ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 21:55 ` Ying Han
2011-06-03 5:25 ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 15:00 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-10 7:36 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:57 ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 0:33 ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:45 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:48 ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:41 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 5/8] memcg: remove unused soft limit code Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13 9:26 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 6/8] vmscan: change zone_nr_lru_pages to take memcg instead of scan control Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:30 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13 9:29 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 7/8] vmscan: memcg-aware unevictable page rescue scanner Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:27 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 21:02 ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 22:01 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 22:19 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 23:15 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-03 5:08 ` Ying Han
2011-06-13 9:42 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13 11:18 ` Michal Hocko
2011-07-19 22:47 ` Ying Han
2011-07-20 0:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 7:28 ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 7:59 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 6:25 ` [patch 8/8] mm: make per-memcg lru lists exclusive Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:16 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:54 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08 15:04 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08 8:54 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 9:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 20:33 ` Ying Han
2011-08-12 8:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 17:08 ` Ying Han
2011-08-12 19:17 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-15 3:01 ` Ying Han
2011-08-15 1:34 ` Ying Han
2011-08-15 9:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 23:52 ` [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 0:35 ` Greg Thelen
2011-06-09 1:13 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-02 4:05 ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 7:50 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:51 ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-06-02 17:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08 3:45 ` Ying Han
2011-06-08 3:53 ` Ying Han
2011-06-08 15:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 3:52 ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 8:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 17:36 ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 18:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 21:38 ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 22:30 ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 23:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10 0:17 ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 7:33 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 9:06 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 10:00 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 12:59 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-09 1:15 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-09 8:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 9:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-13 9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:35 ` Johannes Weiner
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