From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
mgorman@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
colin.king@canonical.com, raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz,
chris.mason@oracle.com, cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org,
riel@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:04:00 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=oe4Ties6awwhHFPf42EXCn2U4MQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305519711.4806.7.camel@mulgrave.site>
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 19:27 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>> (2011/05/13 23:03), Mel Gorman wrote:
>> > Under constant allocation pressure, kswapd can be in the situation where
>> > sleeping_prematurely() will always return true even if kswapd has been
>> > running a long time. Check if kswapd needs to be scheduled.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@suse.de>
>> > ---
>> > mm/vmscan.c | 4 ++++
>> > 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > index af24d1e..4d24828 100644
>> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > @@ -2251,6 +2251,10 @@ static bool sleeping_prematurely(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order, long remaining,
>> > unsigned long balanced = 0;
>> > bool all_zones_ok = true;
>> >
>> > + /* If kswapd has been running too long, just sleep */
>> > + if (need_resched())
>> > + return false;
>> > +
>>
>> Hmm... I don't like this patch so much. because this code does
>>
>> - don't sleep if kswapd got context switch at shrink_inactive_list
>
> This isn't entirely true: need_resched() will be false, so we'll follow
> the normal path for determining whether to sleep or not, in effect
> leaving the current behaviour unchanged.
>
>> - sleep if kswapd didn't
>
> This also isn't entirely true: whether need_resched() is true at this
> point depends on a whole lot more that whether we did a context switch
> in shrink_inactive. It mostly depends on how long we've been running
> without giving up the CPU. Generally that will mean we've been round
> the shrinker loop hundreds to thousands of times without sleeping.
>
>> It seems to be semi random behavior.
>
> Well, we have to do something. Chris Mason first suspected the hang was
> a kswapd rescheduling problem a while ago. We tried putting
> cond_rescheds() in several places in the vmscan code, but to no avail.
Is it a result of test with patch of Hannes(ie, !pgdat_balanced)?
If it isn't, it would be nop regardless of putting cond_reshed at vmscan.c.
Because, although we complete zone balancing, kswapd doesn't sleep as
pgdat_balance returns wrong result. And at last VM calls
balance_pgdat. In this case, balance_pgdat returns without any work as
kswap couldn't find zones which have not enough free pages and goto
out. kswapd could repeat this work infinitely. So you don't have a
chance to call cond_resched.
But if your test was with Hanne's patch, I am very curious how come
kswapd consumes CPU a lot.
> The need_resched() in sleeping_prematurely() seems to be about the best
> option. The other option might be just to put a cond_resched() in
> kswapd_try_to_sleep(), but that will really have about the same effect.
I don't oppose it but before that, I think we have to know why kswapd
consumes CPU a lot although we applied Hannes' patch.
>
> James
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-16 5:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-13 14:03 [PATCH 0/4] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations V2 Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: Correct use of pgdat_balanced in sleeping_prematurely Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-14 16:30 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 14:30 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: slub: Do not wake kswapd for SLUBs speculative high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 21:10 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-18 6:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-18 17:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: slub: Do not take expensive steps " Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 21:16 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 8:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 13:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 16:22 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 19:35 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 19:31 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 10:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-16 4:21 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-16 5:04 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-05-16 8:45 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 8:58 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 23:50 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 0:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 10:38 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 13:50 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-17 16:15 ` [PATCH] mm: vmscan: Correctly check if reclaimer should schedule during shrink_slab Mel Gorman
2011-05-18 0:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-19 0:03 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 0:09 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 11:36 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-20 0:06 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 4:19 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 7:39 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-18 4:09 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-18 1:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 5:44 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 6:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-18 22:55 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 23:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 0:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 9:57 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 8:45 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 14:30 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-13 15:19 ` [PATCH 0/4] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations V2 James Bottomley
2011-05-13 15:52 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 15:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-13 15:43 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-14 8:34 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-16 8:37 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 11:24 ` Colin Ian King
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