From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: add pgfault latency histograms
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 21:45:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTik_zV38MGittCrWfwnkLVuVCvdjBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110527111102.f5bd5ff1.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:11 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 May 2011 18:40:44 -0700
> Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:31 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
>> <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:23:20 -0700
>> > Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:05 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
>> >> kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thu, 26 May 2011 14:07:49 -0700
>> >> > Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > This adds histogram to capture pagefault latencies on per-memcg basis. I
>> >> > used
>> >> > > this patch on the memcg background reclaim test, and figured there could
>> >> > be more
>> >> > > usecases to monitor/debug application performance.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The histogram is composed 8 bucket in ns unit. The last one is infinite
>> >> > (inf)
>> >> > > which is everything beyond the last one. To be more flexible, the buckets
>> >> > can
>> >> > > be reset and also each bucket is configurable at runtime.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > memory.pgfault_histogram: exports the histogram on per-memcg basis and
>> >> > also can
>> >> > > be reset by echoing "reset". Meantime, all the buckets are writable by
>> >> > echoing
>> >> > > the range into the API. see the example below.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > /proc/sys/vm/pgfault_histogram: the global sysfs tunablecan be used to
>> >> > turn
>> >> > > on/off recording the histogram.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Functional Test:
>> >> > > Create a memcg with 10g hard_limit, running dd & allocate 8g anon page.
>> >> > > Measure the anon page allocation latency.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ mkdir /dev/cgroup/memory/B
>> >> > > $ echo 10g >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.limit_in_bytes
>> >> > > $ echo $$ >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/tasks
>> >> > > $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/export/hdc3/dd/tf0 bs=1024 count=20971520 &
>> >> > > $ allocate 8g anon pages
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/pgfault_histogram
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> >> > > pgfault latency histogram (ns):
>> >> > > < 600 2051273
>> >> > > < 1200 40859
>> >> > > < 2400 4004
>> >> > > < 4800 1605
>> >> > > < 9600 170
>> >> > > < 19200 82
>> >> > > < 38400 6
>> >> > > < inf 0
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ echo reset >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> >> > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> >> > > pgfault latency histogram (ns):
>> >> > > < 600 0
>> >> > > < 1200 0
>> >> > > < 2400 0
>> >> > > < 4800 0
>> >> > > < 9600 0
>> >> > > < 19200 0
>> >> > > < 38400 0
>> >> > > < inf 0
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ echo 500 520 540 580 600 1000 5000
>> >> > >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> >> > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> >> > > pgfault latency histogram (ns):
>> >> > > < 500 50
>> >> > > < 520 151
>> >> > > < 540 3715
>> >> > > < 580 1859812
>> >> > > < 600 202241
>> >> > > < 1000 25394
>> >> > > < 5000 5875
>> >> > > < inf 186
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Performance Test:
>> >> > > I ran through the PageFaultTest (pft) benchmark to measure the overhead
>> >> > of
>> >> > > recording the histogram. There is no overhead observed on both
>> >> > "flt/cpu/s"
>> >> > > and "fault/wsec".
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ mkdir /dev/cgroup/memory/A
>> >> > > $ echo 16g >/dev/cgroup/memory/A/memory.limit_in_bytes
>> >> > > $ echo $$ >/dev/cgroup/memory/A/tasks
>> >> > > $ ./pft -m 15g -t 8 -T a
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Result:
>> >> > > "fault/wsec"
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ ./ministat no_histogram histogram
>> >> > > x no_histogram
>> >> > > + histogram
>> >> > >
>> >> > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> >> > > N Min Max Median Avg
>> >> > Stddev
>> >> > > x 5 813404.51 824574.98 821661.3 820470.83
>> >> > 4202.0758
>> >> > > + 5 821228.91 825894.66 822874.65 823374.15
>> >> > 1787.9355
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "flt/cpu/s"
>> >> > >
>> >> > > $ ./ministat no_histogram histogram
>> >> > > x no_histogram
>> >> > > + histogram
>> >> > >
>> >> > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> >> > > N Min Max Median Avg
>> >> > Stddev
>> >> > > x 5 104951.93 106173.13 105142.73 105349.2
>> >> > 513.78158
>> >> > > + 5 104697.67 105416.1 104943.52 104973.77
>> >> > 269.24781
>> >> > > No difference proven at 95.0% confidence
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Signed-off-by: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > Hmm, interesting....but isn't it very very very complicated interface ?
>> >> > Could you make this for 'perf' ? Then, everyone (including someone who
>> >> > don't use memcg)
>> >> > will be happy.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for looking at it.
>> >>
>> >> There is only one per-memcg API added which is basically exporting the
>> >> histogram. The "reset" and reconfiguring the bucket is not "must" but make
>> >> it more flexible. Also, the sysfs API can be reduced if necessary since
>> >> there is no over-head observed by always turning it on anyway.
>> >>
>> >> I am not familiar w/ perf, any suggestions how it is supposed to be look
>> >> like?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >
>> > IIUC, you can record "all" latency information by perf record. Then, latency
>> > information can be dumped out to some file.
>> >
>> > You can add a python? script for perf as
>> >
>> > # perf report memory-reclaim-latency-histgram -f perf.data
>> > -o 500,1000,1500,2000.....
>> > ...show histgram in text.. or report the histgram in graphic.
>> >
>> > Good point is
>> > - you can reuse perf.data and show histgram from another point of view.
>> >
>> > - you can show another cut of view, for example, I think you can write a
>> > parser to show "changes in hisgram by time", easily.
>> > You may able to generate a movie ;)
>> >
>> > - Now, perf cgroup is supported. Then,
>> > - you can see per task histgram
>> > - you can see per cgroup histgram
>> > - you can see per system-wide histgram
>> > (If you record latency of usual kswapd/alloc_pages)
>> >
>> > - If you record latency within shrink_zone(), you can show per-zone
>> > reclaim latency histgram. record parsers can gather them and
>> > show histgram. This will be benefical to cpuset users.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm sorry if I miss something.
>>
>> After study a bit on perf, it is not feasible in this casecase. The
>> cpu & memory overhead of perf is overwhelming.... Each page fault will
>> generate a record in the buffer and how many data we can record in the
>> buffer, and how many data will be processed later.. Most of the data
>> that is recorded by the general perf framework is not needed here.
>>
>
> I disagree. "each page fault" is not correct. "every lru scan" is correct.
> Then, record to buffer will be at most memory.failcnt times.
Hmm. Sorry I might miss something here... :(
The page fault histogram recorded is per page-fault, only the ones
trigger reclaim. The background reclaim testing is just one usecase of
it, and we need this information for more
general usage to monitor application performance. So i recorded the
latency for each single page fault.
--Ying
>
> please consider more.
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Kame
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-27 4:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-26 21:07 [PATCH] memcg: add pgfault latency histograms Ying Han
2011-05-27 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27 0:23 ` Ying Han
2011-05-27 0:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27 1:40 ` Ying Han
2011-05-27 2:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27 4:45 ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-05-27 5:41 ` Ying Han
2011-05-27 8:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27 18:46 ` Ying Han
2011-05-28 10:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 16:51 ` Ying Han
2011-05-27 8:04 ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-27 16:27 ` Ying Han
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