From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Izik Eidus <izik.eidus@ravellosystems.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu_notifier, kvm: Introduce dirty bit tracking in spte and mmu notifier to help KSM dirty bit tracking
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:30:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTim28RJ4Dn_WSLAyqjds1JMqXeYmEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110622232532.GA20843@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 07:13:54AM +0800, Nai Xia wrote:
>> I agree on this point. Dirty bit , young bit, is by no means accurate. Even
>> on 4kB pages, there is always a chance that the pte are dirty but the contents
>> are actually the same. Yeah, the whole optimization contains trade-offs and
>
> Just a side note: the fact the dirty bit would be set even when the
> data is the same is actually a pros, not a cons. If the content is the
> same but the page was written to, it'd trigger a copy on write short
> after merging the page rendering the whole exercise wasteful. The
> cksum plays a double role, it both "stabilizes" the unstable tree, so
> there's less chance of bad lookups, but it also avoids us to merge
> stuff that is written to frequently triggering copy on writes, and the
> dirty bit would also catch overwrites with the same data, something
> the cksum can't do.
Good point. I actually have myself another version of ksm(off topic, but
if you want to take a glance: http://code.google.com/p/uksm/ :-) )
that did do statistics of the ratio of the pages in a VMA that really got COWed.
due to KSM merging on each scan round basis.
It's complicated to deduce a precise information only
from the dirty and cksum.
Thanks,
Nai
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-23 1:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-21 12:55 [PATCH 0/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Nai Xia
2011-06-21 13:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 " Nai Xia
2011-06-21 21:42 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 0:02 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:42 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-21 13:32 ` [PATCH] mmu_notifier, kvm: Introduce dirty bit tracking in spte and mmu notifier to help KSM dirty bit tracking Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:21 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 4:43 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 6:15 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 6:38 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 15:46 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 10:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:05 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:19 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 11:24 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:33 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 11:39 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 15:39 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-22 16:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 23:37 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 0:31 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-23 0:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 1:36 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-23 0:00 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-23 0:42 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:13 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 1:30 ` Nai Xia [this message]
2011-06-22 23:28 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-23 0:52 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 11:24 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 15:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 15:19 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 23:19 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 0:14 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:42 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-21 13:36 ` [PATCH 2/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Nai Xia
2011-06-21 22:38 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 0:04 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:35 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 4:47 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 10:55 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:46 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Chris Wright
2011-06-22 4:15 ` Nai Xia
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