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From: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
To: Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF][MM] rough agenda for memcg.
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:36:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimQw1LQ6+gDFbex-C-5=gVqJf7ZPg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=D8pfyxf3Vr33YZvuQm9fQv+bthyiLLeRjaJt6@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kame,
>
> 2011/3/31 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>:
>>  c) Should we provide a auto memory cgroup for file caches ?
>>     (Then we can implement a file-cache-limit.)
>>  c) AFAIK, some other OSs have this kind of feature, a box for file-cache.
>>     Because file-cache is a shared object between all cgroups, it's difficult
>>     to handle. It may be better to have a auto cgroup for file caches and add knobs
>>     for memcg.
>
> I have been thinking about this idea. It seems the root cause of
> current difficult is
> the whole cgroup infrastructure is based on process groups, so its counters
> naturally center on process. However, this is not nature for counters
> of file caches,
> which center on inodes/devs actually. This brought many confusing
> problems - e.g.
> who should be charged for a (dirty)file page?  I think the answer is
> no process but
> the filesystem/block device it sits on.

This has been an open issue for Google as well. Greg Thelen gave this
some though last year and had a proposal around the idea of forcing
files within certain directories to be accounted to a given cgroup.
We're not actively implementing this right now, but if there is
outside interest this might be worth discussing (might just be as an
informal conversation rather than a session though).

-- 
Michel "Walken" Lespinasse
A program is never fully debugged until the last user dies.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-01  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-31  2:01 [LSF][MM] rough agenda for memcg KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-31  5:52 ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-31 12:27   ` [Lsf] " Jan Kara
2011-03-31  6:01 ` Balbir Singh
2011-03-31  6:03 ` Ying Han
2011-03-31  9:15 ` Zhu Yanhai
2011-04-01  2:36   ` Michel Lespinasse [this message]
2011-03-31  9:23 ` [Lsf] " Pavel Emelyanov
2011-03-31 16:20   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-31 18:14     ` Ying Han
2011-03-31 19:00       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-03-31 19:16         ` Ying Han
2011-03-31 19:22           ` Ying Han
2011-03-31 15:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-31 20:06   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-01  3:18   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-04-01  1:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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