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From: Hiroyuki Kamezawa <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/8] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 01:14:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinWGEJHf1MhzDS4JB0-V9iynoFoHA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110602150123.GE28684@cmpxchg.org>

2011/6/3 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:59:01PM +0900, Hiroyuki Kamezawa wrote:
>> 2011/6/1 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>:

>> > @@ -1927,8 +1980,7 @@ static int mem_cgroup_do_charge(struct mem_cgroup *mem, gfp_t gfp_mask,
>> >        if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_WAIT))
>> >                return CHARGE_WOULDBLOCK;
>> >
>> > -       ret = mem_cgroup_hierarchical_reclaim(mem_over_limit, NULL,
>> > -                                             gfp_mask, flags);
>> > +       ret = mem_cgroup_reclaim(mem_over_limit, gfp_mask, flags);
>> >        if (mem_cgroup_margin(mem_over_limit) >= nr_pages)
>> >                return CHARGE_RETRY;
>> >        /*
>>
>> It seems this clean-up around hierarchy and softlimit can be in an
>> independent patch, no ?
>
> Hm, why do you think it's a cleanup?  The hierarchical target reclaim
> code is moved to vmscan.c and as a result the entry points for hard
> limit and soft limit reclaim differ.  This is why the original
> function, mem_cgroup_hierarchical_reclaim() has to be split into two
> parts.
>
If functionality is unchanged, I think it's clean up.
I agree to move hierarchy walk to vmscan.c. but it can be done as
a clean up patch for current code.
(Make current try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages() to use this code.)
 and then, you can write a patch which only includes a core
logic/purpose of this patch
"use root cgroup's LRU for global and make global reclaim as full-scan
of memcgroup."

In short, I felt this patch is long....and maybe watchers of -mm are
not interested in rewritie of hierarchy walk but are intetested in the
chages in shrink_zone() itself very much.



>> > @@ -1943,6 +1976,31 @@ restart:
>> >        throttle_vm_writeout(sc->gfp_mask);
>> >  }
>> >
>> > +static void shrink_zone(int priority, struct zone *zone,
>> > +                       struct scan_control *sc)
>> > +{
>> > +       unsigned long nr_reclaimed_before = sc->nr_reclaimed;
>> > +       struct mem_cgroup *root = sc->target_mem_cgroup;
>> > +       struct mem_cgroup *first, *mem = NULL;
>> > +
>> > +       first = mem = mem_cgroup_hierarchy_walk(root, mem);
>>
>> Hmm, I think we should add some scheduling here, later.
>> (as select a group over softlimit or select a group which has
>>  easily reclaimable pages on this zone.)
>>
>> This name as hierarchy_walk() sounds like "full scan in round-robin, always".
>> Could you find better name ?
>
> Okay, I'll try.
>
>> > +       for (;;) {
>> > +               unsigned long nr_reclaimed;
>> > +
>> > +               sc->mem_cgroup = mem;
>> > +               do_shrink_zone(priority, zone, sc);
>> > +
>> > +               nr_reclaimed = sc->nr_reclaimed - nr_reclaimed_before;
>> > +               if (nr_reclaimed >= sc->nr_to_reclaim)
>> > +                       break;
>>
>> what this calculation means ?  Shouldn't we do this quit based on the
>> number of "scan"
>> rather than "reclaimed" ?
>
> It aborts the loop once sc->nr_to_reclaim pages have been reclaimed
> from that zone during that hierarchy walk, to prevent overreclaim.
>
> If you have unbalanced sizes of memcgs in the system, it is not
> desirable to have every reclaimer scan all memcgs, but let those quit
> early that have made some progress on the bigger memcgs.
>
Hmm, why not if (sc->nr_reclaimed >= sc->nr_to_reclaim) ?

I'm sorry if I miss something..


> It's essentially a forward progagation of the same check in
> do_shrink_zone().  It trades absolute fairness for average reclaim
> latency.
>
> Note that kswapd sets the reclaim target to infinity, so this
> optimization applies only to direct reclaimers.
>
>> > +               mem = mem_cgroup_hierarchy_walk(root, mem);
>> > +               if (mem == first)
>> > +                       break;
>>
>> Why we quit loop  ?
>
> get_scan_count() for traditional global reclaim returns the scan
> target for the zone.
>
> With this per-memcg reclaimer, get_scan_count() will return scan
> targets for the respective per-memcg zone subsizes.
>
> So once we have gone through all memcgs, we should have scanned the
> amount of pages that global reclaim would have deemed sensible for
> that zone at that priority level.
>
> As such, this is the exit condition based on scan count you referred
> to above.
>
That's what I want as a comment in codes.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-02 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01  6:25 [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 1/8] memcg: remove unused retry signal from reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 2/8] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:59   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 15:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 16:14       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa [this message]
2011-06-02 17:29         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 14:01           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  9:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-09 16:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 13:12   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-09 13:45     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 15:48   ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 17:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 23:41       ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 23:47         ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-10  0:34           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:48             ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11 20:39   ` Ying Han
2011-08-11 21:09     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:15       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:22         ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:57           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  6:08             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 19:04           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 20:36             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 21:05               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  7:07                 ` Ying Han
2011-08-30 15:14                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-31 22:58                     ` Ying Han
2011-09-21  8:44                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  8:07         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 3/8] memcg: reclaim statistics Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 4/8] memcg: rework soft limit reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  5:37   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 21:55   ` Ying Han
2011-06-03  5:25     ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 15:00       ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-10  7:36         ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:57           ` Ying Han
2011-06-16  0:33             ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:45             ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:48         ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:41           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 5/8] memcg: remove unused soft limit code Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 6/8] vmscan: change zone_nr_lru_pages to take memcg instead of scan control Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:30   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:29   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 7/8] vmscan: memcg-aware unevictable page rescue scanner Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:27   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:27     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 21:02     ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 22:01       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 22:19         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 23:15           ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-03  5:08           ` Ying Han
2011-06-13  9:42   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13 11:18       ` Michal Hocko
2011-07-19 22:47   ` Ying Han
2011-07-20  0:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:28       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:59         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 8/8] mm: make per-memcg lru lists exclusive Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:16   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:24     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:54       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08 15:04           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  8:54     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 20:33   ` Ying Han
2011-08-12  8:34     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 17:08       ` Ying Han
2011-08-12 19:17         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-15  3:01           ` Ying Han
2011-08-15  1:34       ` Ying Han
2011-08-15  9:39         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 23:52 ` [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02  0:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-06-09  1:13     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-02  4:05   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:51       ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 17:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08  3:45           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08  3:53           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08 15:32             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  3:52               ` Ying Han
2011-06-09  8:35                 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 17:36                   ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 18:36                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 21:38                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 22:30                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 23:31                         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:17                           ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:33   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  9:06     ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 10:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 12:59         ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-09  1:15           ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-09  8:43             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-13  9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:35   ` Johannes Weiner

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