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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel falls apart under light memory pressure (i.e. linking vmlinux)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:37:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinst+Ryox9VZ-s7gdXKa574XXqt5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110514174333.GW6008@one.firstfloor.org>

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> Copying back linux-mm.
>
>> Recently, we added following patch.
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/26/129
>> If it's a culprit, the patch should solve the problem.
>
> It would be probably better to not do the allocations at all under
> memory pressure.  Even if the RA allocation doesn't go into reclaim

Fair enough.
I think we can do it easily now.
If page_cache_alloc_readahead(ie, GFP_NORETRY) is fail, we can adjust
RA window size or turn off a while. The point is that we can use the
fail of __do_page_cache_readahead as sign of memory pressure.
Wu, What do you think?

> it may still "steal" allocations recently freed and needed by other
> actors.

This problem is general thing as well as RA.
But it would be not a big problem in order-0 pages.
If it's a really problem, it might sign we have to increase SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.

The concern I thought is order-0 allocation happens with other
higher-order reclaims in parallel.
order-0 allocation can steal other's high order pages.
For it, I sent a patch but I didn't have enough time to dig in.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/2/93
I have a plan to do.

>
> -Andi
> --
> ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
>



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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-15  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-05-14 15:46         ` Kernel falls apart under light memory pressure (i.e. linking vmlinux) Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-14 16:53           ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]             ` <BANLkTik6SS9NH7XVSRBoCR16_5veY0MKBw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-05-14 17:43               ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-15  1:37                 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-05-15 15:27                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-15 15:59                     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-15 22:58                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16  8:51                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 16:12                     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-17  6:00                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-17  6:35                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 19:22                         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-18  5:17                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19  2:15                             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-19  2:30                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-19  2:41                                 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-19  2:54                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 14:16                                 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20  0:17                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20  2:58                                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20  3:12                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  3:38                                       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20  4:20                                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20  5:08                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-20  5:36                                             ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20  7:43                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-20 10:11                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-20 14:11                                               ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 15:33                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 16:01                                                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 16:19                                                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20 18:09                                                       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20 18:40                                                         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-21 12:04                                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 13:34                                                           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-21 14:14                                                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 14:44                                                             ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-22 12:22                                                               ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-22 23:12                                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23 16:42                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-23 17:35                                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-24  1:19                                                                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-24  1:34                                                                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 11:24                                                                       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-24 11:55                                                                         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-25  0:43                                                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-21 14:31                                                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 14:51                             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-19 15:00                               ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-05-20  0:20                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-15 22:40                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17  5:52                       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-17  6:26                         ` Minchan Kim

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