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From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] memcg: add high/low watermark to res_counter
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:16:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinxuSaCEvN4_vB=uA1rdGUwCpovog@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110504085851.GC1375@tiehlicka.suse.cz>

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Tue 03-05-11 10:01:27, Ying Han wrote:
>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
>> > On Tue 03-05-11 16:45:23, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>> >> 2011/5/3 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>:
>> >> > On Sun 01-05-11 15:06:02, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>> >> >> > On Mon 25-04-11 18:28:49, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> [...]
>> >> >> Can you please clarify this? I feel it is not opposite semantics.
>> >> >
>> >> > In the global reclaim low watermark represents the point when we _start_
>> >> > background reclaim while high watermark is the _stopper_. Watermarks are
>> >> > based on the free memory while this proposal makes it based on the used
>> >> > memory.
>> >> > I understand that the result is same in the end but it is really
>> >> > confusing because you have to switch your mindset from free to used and
>> >> > from under the limit to above the limit.
>> >>
>> >> Ah, right. So, do you have an alternative idea?
>> >
>> > Why cannot we just keep the global reclaim semantic and make it free
>> > memory (hard_limit - usage_in_bytes) based with low limit as the trigger
>> > for reclaiming?
>>
> [...]
>> The current scheme
>
> What is the current scheme?

using the "usage_in_bytes" instead of "free"

--Ying
>
>> is closer to the global bg reclaim which the low is triggering reclaim
>> and high is stopping reclaim. And we can only use the "usage" to keep
>> the same API.
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-04 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-25  9:25 [PATCH 0/7] memcg background reclaim , yet another one KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] memcg: add high/low watermark to res_counter KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 17:54   ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 13:33   ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-01  6:06     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-03  6:49       ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-03  7:45         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-03  8:25           ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-03 17:01             ` Ying Han
2011-05-04  8:58               ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-04 17:16                 ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-05-05  6:59                   ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-06  5:28                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-06 14:22                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09  0:21                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-09  5:47                           ` Ying Han
2011-05-09  9:58                           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09  9:59                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-10  4:43                             ` Ying Han
2011-05-09  5:40                       ` Ying Han
2011-05-09  7:10                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-09 10:18                           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09 12:49                             ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-09 23:49                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-10  4:39                                 ` Ying Han
2011-05-10  4:51                             ` Ying Han
2011-05-10  6:27                               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-10  7:09                                 ` Ying Han
2011-05-04  3:55             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-04  8:55               ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-09  3:24                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-02  9:07   ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-06  5:30     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:29 ` [PATCH 2/7] memcg high watermark interface KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 22:36   ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:31 ` [PATCH 3/7] memcg: select victim node in round robin KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:34 ` [PATCH 4/7] memcg fix scan ratio with small memcg KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 17:35   ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  1:43     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] memcg bgreclaim core KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  4:59   ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  5:08     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:15       ` Ying Han
2011-04-27  0:10         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27  1:01           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 18:37   ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:40 ` [PATCH 6/7] memcg add zone_all_unreclaimable KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] memcg watermark reclaim workqueue KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:19   ` Ying Han
2011-04-27  0:31     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27  3:40       ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:43 ` [PATCH 8/7] memcg : reclaim statistics KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  5:35   ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:49 ` [PATCH 0/7] memcg background reclaim , yet another one KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 10:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 22:21   ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  1:38     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  7:19       ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  7:43         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  8:43           ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  8:47             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:08               ` Ying Han
2011-04-27  0:34                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27  1:19                   ` Ying Han
2011-04-28  3:55               ` Ying Han
2011-04-28  4:05                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-02  7:02     ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-02  6:09 ` Balbir Singh

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