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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] change_protection(): Count the number of pages affected
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:01:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFz_JnoR73O46YWhZn2A4t_CSUkGzMMprCUpvR79TVMCEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1352883029-7885-1-git-send-email-mingo@kernel.org>

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> What do you guys think about this mprotect() optimization?

Hmm..

If this is mainly about just avoiding the TLB flushing, I do wonder if
it might not be more interesting to try to be much more aggressive.

As noted elsewhere, we should just notice when vm_page_prot doesn't
change at all - even if 'flags' change, it is possible that the actual
low-level page protection bits do not (due to the X=R issue).

But even *more* aggressively, how about looking at

 - not flushing the TLB at all if the bits become  more permissive
(taking the TLB micro-fault and letting the CPU just update it on its
own)

 - even *more* aggressive: if the bits become strictly more
restrictive, how about not flushing the TLB at all, *and* not even
changing the page tables, and just teaching the page fault code to do
it lazily at fault time?

Now, the "change protections lazily" might actually be a huge
performance problem with the page fault overhead dwarfing any TLB
flush costs, but we don't really know, do we? It might be worth trying
out.

               Linus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-14 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-14  8:50 [PATCH 0/2] change_protection(): Count the number of pages affected Ingo Molnar
2012-11-14  8:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched, numa, mm: Count WS scanning against present PTEs, not virtual memory ranges Ingo Molnar
2012-11-14 18:37   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-14  8:50 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Optimize the TLB flush of sys_mprotect() and change_protection() users Ingo Molnar
2012-11-14 18:39   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-14 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2012-11-14 18:43   ` [PATCH 0/2] change_protection(): Count the number of pages affected Rik van Riel
2012-11-14 20:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-14 22:04       ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-16 18:40   ` Ingo Molnar

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