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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator
Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 14:07:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bBhe4zcxxgqE2X1OeWrWHr1qP_BQGzE7dRhtr1Rs+0S+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCwuZI7ek7XGaLN7@kernel.org>

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 3:25 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Pasha,
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:23:04PM +0000, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > This v2 series introduces the LUO, a kernel subsystem designed to
> > facilitate live kernel updates with minimal downtime,
> > particularly in cloud delplyoments aiming to update without fully
> > disrupting running virtual machines.
> >
> > This series builds upon KHO framework [1] by adding programmatic
> > control over KHO's lifecycle and leveraging KHO for persisting LUO's
> > own metadata across the kexec boundary. The git branch for this series
> > can be found at:
> > https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-liveupdate/tree/luo/rfc-v2
> >
> > What is Live Update?
> > Live Update is a specialized reboot process where selected kernel
> > resources (memory, file descriptors, and eventually devices) are kept
> > operational or their state preserved across a kernel transition (e.g.,
> > via kexec). For certain resources, DMA and interrupt activity might
> > continue with minimal interruption during the kernel reboot.
> >
> > LUO v2 Overview:
> > LUO v2 provides a framework for coordinating live updates. It features:
> > State Machine: Manages the live update process through states:
> > NORMAL, PREPARED, FROZEN, UPDATED.
> >
> > KHO Integration:
> >
> > LUO programmatically drives KHO's finalization and abort sequences.
> > KHO's debugfs interface is now optional configured via
> > CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG.
> >
> > LUO preserves its own metadata via KHO's kho_add_subtree and
> > kho_preserve_phys() mechanisms.
>
> I've only had time to skip through the patches, one thing that came to mind
> was that since LUO is quite tightly coupled with KHO maybe we'll put them
> together in, say, kernel/liveupdate?

Thank you Mike, yes, a good idea, I also thought that it would make
sense for them to be in the same place, but initially I thought
perhaps KHO should be moved to misc/liveupdate/, but since it is
already landing in kernel/kexec_*, and it works with a bunch of core
kernel subsystems it makes sense to move LUO and KHO together under
kernel/liveupdate/

Pasha


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-23 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15 18:23 [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 01/16] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:03   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:12     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 02/16] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 03/16] kho: add kho_unpreserve_folio/phys Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:22     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 04/16] luo: luo_core: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-30  5:00     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:17   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 17:11     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 05/16] luo: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:18   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 17:50     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-09  2:14       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 23:30     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 14:58       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-17 15:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 19:32           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:11             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-18 14:48               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 16:40                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-18 17:00                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 17:43                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-19 12:00                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-19 14:22                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-20 15:28                           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-20 16:03                             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 16:12                               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-24 16:55                                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 18:31                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-23  7:32                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-23 11:29                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 13:46                           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 06/16] luo: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 23:42     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 19:12   ` David Matlack
2025-06-07 23:58     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:30   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08  0:04     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 07/16] luo: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 08/16] luo: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 23:15   ` James Houghton
2025-05-23 18:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:55   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-05 11:56     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 15:56   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:37     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:27       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-15 18:02         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 09/16] luo: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:03   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:49     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:18       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-13 20:26         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-16 10:43           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-16 14:57             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:16               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 10/16] luo: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  8:42   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-08 15:08     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 20:29   ` David Matlack
2025-06-08 16:32     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:15   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:35     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24  9:50   ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-24 14:27     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25  9:36       ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-25 16:12         ` David Matlack
2025-06-26 15:42           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-26 16:24             ` David Matlack
2025-07-14 14:56               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-17 16:17                 ` David Matlack
2025-07-23 14:51                   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-06 14:33             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-07 12:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 16:58         ` pasha.tatashin
2025-07-06 14:24     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-09 21:27       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-10  7:26         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-14 14:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16  9:43             ` Greg KH
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 11/16] luo: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:20   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:36     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:13       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 12/16] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 13/16] luo: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  8:52   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-08 16:47     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 14/16] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 15/16] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  9:00   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 16/16] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-20  7:25 ` [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Mike Rapoport
2025-05-23 18:07   ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2025-05-26  6:32 ` Mike Rapoport

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