From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io0-f199.google.com (mail-io0-f199.google.com [209.85.223.199]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824046B0010 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 09:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io0-f199.google.com with SMTP id z9-v6so11374772iom.14 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 06:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-sor-f65.google.com (mail-sor-f65.google.com. [209.85.220.65]) by mx.google.com with SMTPS id x12-v6sor5222219jah.93.2018.07.31.06.22.15 for (Google Transport Security); Tue, 31 Jul 2018 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20180628105057.GA26019@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> <20180629110709.GA17859@arm.com> <20180703173608.GF27243@arm.com> From: Andrey Konovalov Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:22:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/17] khwasan: kernel hardware assisted address sanitizer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Andrew Morton , Will Deacon , Catalin Marinas Cc: Dave Martin , Andrey Ryabinin , Alexander Potapenko , Dmitry Vyukov , Christoph Lameter , Mark Rutland , Nick Desaulniers , Marc Zyngier , Ard Biesheuvel , "Eric W . Biederman" , Ingo Molnar , Paul Lawrence , Geert Uytterhoeven , Arnd Bergmann , "Kirill A . Shutemov" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Kate Stewart , Mike Rapoport , kasan-dev , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linux ARM , linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org, Linux Memory Management List , Linux Kbuild mailing list , Chintan Pandya , Jacob Bramley , Jann Horn , Ruben Ayrapetyan , Lee Smith , Kostya Serebryany , Mark Brand , Ramana Radhakrishnan , Evgeniy Stepanov On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Andrey Konovalov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Will Deacon wrote: >> Hmm, but elsewhere in this thread, Evgenii is motivating the need for this >> patch set precisely because the lower overhead means it's suitable for >> "near-production" use. So I don't think writing this off as a debugging >> feature is the right approach, and we instead need to put effort into >> analysing the impact of address tags on the kernel as a whole. Playing >> whack-a-mole with subtle tag issues sounds like the worst possible outcome >> for the long-term. > > I don't see a way to find cases where pointer tags would matter > statically, so I've implemented the dynamic approach that I mentioned > above. I've instrumented all pointer comparisons/subtractions in an > LLVM compiler pass and used a kernel module that would print a bug > report whenever two pointers with different tags are being > compared/subtracted (ignoring comparisons with NULL pointers and with > pointers obtained by casting an error code to a pointer type). Then I > tried booting the kernel in QEMU and on an Odroid C2 board and I ran > syzkaller overnight. > > This yielded the following results. > > ====== > > The two places that look interesting are: > > is_vmalloc_addr in include/linux/mm.h (already mentioned by Catalin) > is_kernel_rodata in mm/util.c > > Here we compare a pointer with some fixed untagged values to make sure > that the pointer lies in a particular part of the kernel address > space. Since KWHASAN doesn't add tags to pointers that belong to > rodata or vmalloc regions, this should work as is. To make sure I've > added debug checks to those two functions that check that the result > doesn't change whether we operate on pointers with or without > untagging. > > ====== > > A few other cases that don't look that interesting: > > Comparing pointers to achieve unique sorting order of pointee objects > (e.g. sorting locks addresses before performing a double lock): > > tty_ldisc_lock_pair_timeout in drivers/tty/tty_ldisc.c > pipe_double_lock in fs/pipe.c > unix_state_double_lock in net/unix/af_unix.c > lock_two_nondirectories in fs/inode.c > mutex_lock_double in kernel/events/core.c > > ep_cmp_ffd in fs/eventpoll.c > fsnotify_compare_groups fs/notify/mark.c > > Nothing needs to be done here, since the tags embedded into pointers > don't change, so the sorting order would still be unique. > > Check that a pointer belongs to some particular allocation: > > is_sibling_entry lib/radix-tree.c > object_is_on_stack in include/linux/sched/task_stack.h > > Nothing needs to be here either, since two pointers can only belong to > the same allocation if they have the same tag. > > ====== > > Will, Catalin, WDYT? ping