From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
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Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/21] kasan: hardware tag-based mode for production use on arm64
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:15:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+bVCADgzweb_gmC9f7m_uc5r73scLPy+D3=Tbf2DFqb6g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1603372719.git.andreyknvl@google.com>
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:19 PM Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com> wrote:
>
> This patchset is not complete (hence sending as RFC), but I would like to
> start the discussion now and hear people's opinions regarding the
> questions mentioned below.
>
> === Overview
>
> This patchset adopts the existing hardware tag-based KASAN mode [1] for
> use in production as a memory corruption mitigation. Hardware tag-based
> KASAN relies on arm64 Memory Tagging Extension (MTE) [2] to perform memory
> and pointer tagging. Please see [3] and [4] for detailed analysis of how
> MTE helps to fight memory safety problems.
>
> The current plan is reuse CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS for production, but add a
> boot time switch, that allows to choose between a debugging mode, that
> includes all KASAN features as they are, and a production mode, that only
> includes the essentials like tag checking.
>
> It is essential that switching between these modes doesn't require
> rebuilding the kernel with different configs, as this is required by the
> Android GKI initiative [5].
>
> The patch titled "kasan: add and integrate kasan boot parameters" of this
> series adds a few new boot parameters:
>
> kasan.mode allows choosing one of main three modes:
>
> - kasan.mode=off - no checks at all
> - kasan.mode=prod - only essential production features
> - kasan.mode=full - all features
>
> Those mode configs provide default values for three more internal configs
> listed below. However it's also possible to override the default values
> by providing:
>
> - kasan.stack=off/on - enable stacks collection
> (default: on for mode=full, otherwise off)
> - kasan.trap=async/sync - use async or sync MTE mode
> (default: sync for mode=full, otherwise async)
> - kasan.fault=report/panic - only report MTE fault or also panic
> (default: report)
>
> === Benchmarks
>
> For now I've only performed a few simple benchmarks such as measuring
> kernel boot time and slab memory usage after boot. The benchmarks were
> performed in QEMU and the results below exclude the slowdown caused by
> QEMU memory tagging emulation (as it's different from the slowdown that
> will be introduced by hardware and therefore irrelevant).
>
> KASAN_HW_TAGS=y + kasan.mode=off introduces no performance or memory
> impact compared to KASAN_HW_TAGS=n.
>
> kasan.mode=prod (without executing the tagging instructions) introduces
> 7% of both performace and memory impact compared to kasan.mode=off.
> Note, that 4% of performance and all 7% of memory impact are caused by the
> fact that enabling KASAN essentially results in CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT
> being disabled.
>
> Recommended Android config has CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT disabled (I assume
> for security reasons), but Pixel 4 has it enabled. It's arguable, whether
> "disabling" CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT introduces any security benefit on
> top of MTE. Without MTE it makes exploiting some heap corruption harder.
> With MTE it will only make it harder provided that the attacker is able to
> predict allocation tags.
>
> kasan.mode=full has 40% performance and 30% memory impact over
> kasan.mode=prod. Both come from alloc/free stack collection.
>
> === Questions
>
> Any concerns about the boot parameters?
For boot parameters I think we are now "safe" in the sense that we
provide maximum possible flexibility and can defer any actual
decisions.
> Should we try to deal with CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT-like behavor mentioned
> above?
How hard it is to allow KASAN with CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT? Are
there any principal conflicts?
The numbers you provided look quite substantial (on a par of what MTE
itself may introduce). So I would assume if a vendor does not have
CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT disabled, it may not want to disable it
because of MTE (effectively doubles overhead).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-22 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-22 13:18 [PATCH RFC v2 00/21] kasan: hardware tag-based mode for production use on arm64 Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/21] kasan: simplify quarantine_put call site Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-27 12:40 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/21] kasan: rename get_alloc/free_info Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-27 12:40 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/21] kasan: introduce set_alloc_info Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-27 12:41 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/21] kasan: unpoison stack only with CONFIG_KASAN_STACK Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-27 12:44 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-27 12:45 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-29 19:57 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-11-16 10:59 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-11-16 11:50 ` Marco Elver
2020-11-16 12:16 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-16 12:19 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-11-16 12:45 ` Vincenzo Frascino
2020-11-16 13:50 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-11-16 14:50 ` Vincenzo Frascino
2020-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/21] kasan: allow VMAP_STACK for HW_TAGS mode Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-27 12:49 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-29 20:00 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/21] kasan: mark kasan_init_tags as __init Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 10:08 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-29 20:08 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/21] kasan, arm64: move initialization message Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 10:55 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-29 20:14 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-11-03 15:33 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/21] kasan: remove __kasan_unpoison_stack Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 10:57 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/21] kasan: inline kasan_reset_tag for tag-based modes Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 11:05 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-30 16:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/21] kasan: inline random_tag for HW_TAGS Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 11:08 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-30 15:48 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-30 16:07 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/21] kasan: inline kasan_poison_memory and check_invalid_free Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 11:29 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/21] kasan: inline and rename kasan_unpoison_memory Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 11:36 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-30 16:34 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-30 17:46 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/21] arm64: kasan: Add cpu_supports_tags helper Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 11:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/21] kasan: add and integrate kasan boot parameters Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 18:50 ` Marco Elver
2020-10-22 20:28 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 12:27 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-30 19:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-30 14:45 ` Marco Elver
2020-10-30 19:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/21] kasan: check kasan_enabled in annotations Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 16:47 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-30 19:47 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/21] kasan: optimize poisoning in kmalloc and krealloc Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 16:55 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-11-02 15:17 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/21] kasan: simplify kasan_poison_kfree Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 16:57 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/21] kasan: rename kasan_poison_kfree Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 16:58 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/21] kasan: don't round_up too much Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 17:01 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 20/21] kasan: simplify assign_tag and set_tag calls Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 17:03 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 13:19 ` [PATCH RFC v2 21/21] kasan: clarify comment in __kasan_kfree_large Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-28 17:04 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-10-22 15:15 ` Dmitry Vyukov [this message]
2020-10-22 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/21] kasan: hardware tag-based mode for production use on arm64 Andrey Konovalov
2020-10-22 18:29 ` Kostya Serebryany
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