From: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Ying Huang <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/15] docs/mm: add document for swap table
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 07:19:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACePvbXae0zymE_BHydXtA_pjZ2NqabVyqxu1xKxLjLKmeYH9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zmkibM_Ex7kGMsr2sni85H-cnxQvh0XwkWiALNQy+zAQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 1:59 AM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 3:03 PM Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Barry,
> >
> > How about this:
> >
> > A swap table stores one cluster worth of swap cache values, which is
> > exactly one page table page on most morden 64 bit systems. This is not
> > coincidental because the cluster size is determined by the huge page size.
>
> I’d phrase it as “PMD huge page,” since we also have “PUD huge page.”
Good point. Will do.
>
> > The swap table is holding an array of pointers, which have the same
> > size as the PTE. The size of the swap table should match the page table
> > page.
> >
>
> I’m not entirely sure what you mean by “page table page.”
The page that gets pointed by the page table, or the page that holds the PTE.
> My understanding is that you’re saying:
> The swap table contains an array of pointers, each the same size as a PTE,
> so its total size typically matches a PTE page table—one page on modern
> 64-bit systems.
That sounds good. Thanks for the suggestion.
I take your suggestion with some small modifications, mostly to
clarify the total size is the total size of one cluster of swap
tables. The total size of all swap tables in a swap file is much
bigger.
How about this:
A swap table is an array of pointers. Each pointer is the same size as a PTE.
The size of a swap table for one swap cluster typically matches a PTE
page table,
which is one page on modern 64-bit systems.
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-18 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-16 16:00 [PATCH v4 00/15] mm, swap: introduce swap table as swap cache (phase I) Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] docs/mm: add document for swap table Kairui Song
2025-09-16 21:59 ` Barry Song
2025-09-16 22:42 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 23:09 ` Barry Song
2025-09-16 23:28 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 23:47 ` Barry Song
2025-09-17 16:48 ` Chris Li
2025-09-17 23:37 ` Barry Song
2025-09-17 23:50 ` Barry Song
2025-09-18 4:50 ` Chris Li
2025-09-18 5:03 ` Chris Li
2025-09-18 7:03 ` Chris Li
2025-09-18 8:58 ` Barry Song
2025-09-18 14:19 ` Chris Li [this message]
2025-09-18 21:35 ` Barry Song
2025-09-21 0:11 ` Chris Li
2025-09-17 16:14 ` SeongJae Park
2025-09-17 17:12 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] mm, swap: use unified helper for swap cache look up Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] mm, swap: fix swap cache index error when retrying reclaim Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] mm, swap: check page poison flag after locking it Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] mm, swap: always lock and check the swap cache folio before use Kairui Song
2025-09-17 23:54 ` Barry Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] mm, swap: rename and move some swap cluster definition and helpers Kairui Song
2025-09-19 22:02 ` Nhat Pham
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] mm, swap: tidy up swap device and cluster info helpers Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] mm, swap: cleanup swap cache API and add kerneldoc Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] mm/shmem, swap: remove redundant error handling for replacing folio Kairui Song
2025-09-24 21:55 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] mm, swap: wrap swap cache replacement with a helper Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] mm, swap: use the swap table for the swap cache and switch API Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] mm, swap: mark swap address space ro and add context debug check Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] mm, swap: remove contention workaround for swap cache Kairui Song
2025-09-16 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] mm, swap: implement dynamic allocation of swap table Kairui Song
2025-09-16 22:51 ` Barry Song
2025-09-24 21:51 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 16:01 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] mm, swap: use a single page for swap table when the size fits Kairui Song
2025-09-16 22:30 ` Barry Song
2025-09-17 3:52 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-17 4:41 ` Barry Song
2025-09-17 4:50 ` Barry Song
2025-09-16 21:22 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] mm, swap: introduce swap table as swap cache (phase I) Hugh Dickins
2025-09-17 3:53 ` Kairui Song
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