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From: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
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	 Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	 ankita@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:21:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACw3F52dyiAyo1ijKfLUGLbh+kquwoUhGMwg4-RObSDvqxreJw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240828234958.GE3773488@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 4:50 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 09:10:34AM -0700, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 7:24 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 05:42:21PM -0700, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Instead of removing the whole pud, can driver or memory_failure do
> > > > something similar to non-struct-page-version of split_huge_page? So
> > > > driver doesn't need to re-fault good pages back?
> > >
> > > It would be far nicer if we didn't have to poke a hole in a 1G mapping
> > > just for memory failure reporting.
> >
> > If I follow this, which of the following sounds better? 1. remove pud
> > and rely on the driver to re-fault PFNs that it knows are not poisoned
> > (what Peter suggested), or 2. keep the pud and allow access to both
> > good and bad PFNs.
>
> In practice I think people will need 2, as breaking up a 1G mapping
> just because a few bits are bad will destroy the VM performance.
>

Totally agreed.

> For this the expectation would be for the VM to co-operate and not
> keep causing memory failures, or perhaps for the platform to spare in
> good memory somehow.

Yes, whether a VM gets into a memory-error-consumption loop
maliciously or accidentally, a reasonable VMM should have means to
detect and break it.

>
> > Or provide some knob (configured by ?) so that kernel + driver can
> > switch between the two?
>
> This is also sounding reasonable, especially if we need some
> alternative protocol to signal userspace about the failed memory
> besides fault and SIGBUS.

To clarify, what on my mind is a knob say named
"sysctl_enable_hard_offline", configured by userspace.

To apply to Ankit's memory_failure_pfn patch[*]:

static int memory_failure_pfn(unsigned long pfn, int flags)
{
  struct interval_tree_node *node;
  int res = MF_FAILED;
  LIST_HEAD(tokill);

  mutex_lock(&pfn_space_lock);
   for (node = interval_tree_iter_first(&pfn_space_itree, pfn, pfn); node;
         node = interval_tree_iter_next(node, pfn, pfn)) {
    struct pfn_address_space *pfn_space =
      container_of(node, struct pfn_address_space, node);

    if (pfn_space->ops)
      pfn_space->ops->failure(pfn_space, pfn);

    collect_procs_pgoff(NULL, pfn_space->mapping, pfn, &tokill);

    if (sysctl_enable_hard_offline)
      unmap_mapping_range(pfn_space->mapping, pfn << PAGE_SHIFT,
                                             PAGE_SIZE, 0);

    res = MF_RECOVERED;
  }
  mutex_unlock(&pfn_space_lock);

  if (res == MF_FAILED)
    return action_result(pfn, MF_MSG_PFN_MAP, res);

  flags |= MF_ACTION_REQUIRED | MF_MUST_KILL;
  kill_procs(&tokill, true, false, pfn, flags);

  return action_result(pfn, MF_MSG_PFN_MAP, MF_RECOVERED);
}

I think we still want to attempt to SIGBUS userspace, regardless of
doing unmap_mapping_range or not.

[*] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231123003513.24292-2-ankita@nvidia.com/#t

>
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-29 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-26 20:43 [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] mm: Introduce ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP and special bits to pmd/pud Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] mm: Drop is_huge_zero_pud() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] mm: Mark special bits for huge pfn mappings when inject Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] mm: Allow THP orders for PFNMAPs Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] mm/gup: Detect huge pfnmap entries in gup-fast Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap for folio_walk_start() Peter Xu
2024-08-28  7:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 14:24     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:30       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 19:45         ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 23:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29  6:35             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:45               ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:49             ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:26     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 19:44       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 20:01         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-02  7:58   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-03 21:23     ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 22:25       ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-09 22:43         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 23:15           ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-10  0:08             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10  2:52               ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 12:16                 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-11  2:16                   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-11 14:34                     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] mm: Always define pxx_pgprot() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] mm: New follow_pfnmap API Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] KVM: Use " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] s390/pci_mmio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] mm/x86/pat: Use the new " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] vfio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] acrn: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] mm/access_process_vm: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] mm: Remove follow_pte() Peter Xu
2024-09-01  4:33   ` Yu Zhao
2024-09-01 13:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] mm/x86: Support large pfn mappings Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] mm/arm64: " Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:22   ` Keith Busch
2025-03-19 22:46     ` Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:53       ` Keith Busch
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] vfio/pci: Implement huge_fault support Peter Xu
2024-08-27 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-27 22:57   ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28  0:42     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28  0:46       ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 14:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28 16:10         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 23:49           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 19:21             ` Jiaqi Yan [this message]
2024-09-04 15:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:38                 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 16:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:58                     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 17:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 17:07                         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  3:56                           ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-08-28 14:41       ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 16:23         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  4:03 ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-09-09 15:03   ` Peter Xu

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