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From: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
To: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>,
	"Maling list - DRI developers" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
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	 Hugh Dickens <hughd@google.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Deucher, Alexander" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Koenig <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Subject: Re: Per file OOM badness
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 18:00:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADnq5_Ng7oe_NMSb6GdL=_T_zw22Gk0B6ePDXRiU7Ljind6Gww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220531100007.174649-1-christian.koenig@amd.com>

+ dri-devel

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 6:00 AM Christian König
<ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> To summarize the issue I'm trying to address here: Processes can allocate
> resources through a file descriptor without being held responsible for it.
>
> Especially for the DRM graphics driver subsystem this is rather
> problematic. Modern games tend to allocate huge amounts of system memory
> through the DRM drivers to make it accessible to GPU rendering.
>
> But even outside of the DRM subsystem this problem exists and it is
> trivial to exploit. See the following simple example of
> using memfd_create():
>
>          fd = memfd_create("test", 0);
>          while (1)
>                  write(fd, page, 4096);
>
> Compile this and you can bring down any standard desktop system within
> seconds.
>
> The background is that the OOM killer will kill every processes in the
> system, but just not the one which holds the only reference to the memory
> allocated by the memfd.
>
> Those problems where brought up on the mailing list multiple times now
> [1][2][3], but without any final conclusion how to address them. Since
> file descriptors are considered shared the process can not directly held
> accountable for allocations made through them. Additional to that file
> descriptors can also easily move between processes as well.
>
> So what this patch set does is to instead of trying to account the
> allocated memory to a specific process it adds a callback to struct
> file_operations which the OOM killer can use to query the specific OOM
> badness of this file reference. This badness is then divided by the
> file_count, so that every process using a shmem file, DMA-buf or DRM
> driver will get it's equal amount of OOM badness.
>
> Callbacks are then implemented for the two core users (memfd and DMA-buf)
> as well as 72 DRM based graphics drivers.
>
> The result is that the OOM killer can now much better judge if a process
> is worth killing to free up memory. Resulting a quite a bit better system
> stability in OOM situations, especially while running games.
>
> The only other possibility I can see would be to change the accounting of
> resources whenever references to the file structure change, but this would
> mean quite some additional overhead for a rather common operation.
>
> Additionally I think trying to limit device driver allocations using
> cgroups is orthogonal to this effort. While cgroups is very useful, it
> works on per process limits and tries to enforce a collaborative model on
> memory management while the OOM killer enforces a competitive model.
>
> Please comment and/or review, we have that problem flying around for years
> now and are not at a point where we finally need to find a solution for
> this.
>
> Regards,
> Christian.
>
> [1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2015-September/089778.html
> [2] https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/18/543
> [3] https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/2/4/799
>
>


      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-31 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-31  9:59 Per file OOM badness Christian König
2022-05-31  9:59 ` [PATCH 01/13] fs: add OOM badness callback to file_operatrations struct Christian König
2022-05-31  9:59 ` [PATCH 02/13] oom: take per file badness into account Christian König
2022-05-31  9:59 ` [PATCH 03/13] mm: shmem: provide oom badness for shmem files Christian König
2022-06-09  9:18   ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-09 12:16     ` Christian König
2022-06-09 12:57       ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-09 14:10         ` Christian König
2022-06-09 14:21           ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-09 14:29             ` Christian König
2022-06-09 15:07               ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-10 10:58                 ` Christian König
2022-06-10 11:44                   ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-10 12:17                     ` Christian König
2022-06-10 14:16                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-11  8:06                         ` Christian König
2022-06-13  7:45                           ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-13 11:50                             ` Christian König
2022-06-13 12:11                               ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-13 12:55                                 ` Christian König
2022-06-13 14:11                                   ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-15 12:35                                     ` Christian König
2022-06-15 13:15                                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-15 14:24                                         ` Christian König
2022-06-13  9:08                           ` Michel Dänzer
2022-06-13  9:11                             ` Christian König
2022-06-09 15:19             ` Felix Kuehling
2022-06-09 15:22               ` Christian König
2022-06-09 15:54                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-31  9:59 ` [PATCH 04/13] dma-buf: provide oom badness for DMA-buf files Christian König
2022-05-31  9:59 ` [PATCH 05/13] drm/gem: adjust per file OOM badness on handling buffers Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 06/13] drm/gma500: use drm_oom_badness Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 07/13] drm/amdgpu: Use drm_oom_badness for amdgpu Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 08/13] drm/radeon: use drm_oom_badness Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/i915: " Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/nouveau: " Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 11/13] drm/omap: " Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 12/13] drm/vmwgfx: " Christian König
2022-05-31 10:00 ` [PATCH 13/13] drm/tegra: " Christian König
2022-05-31 22:00 ` Alex Deucher [this message]

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