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From: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 05/11] mm: Add fast_only bool to test_young and clear_young MMU notifiers
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 09:54:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADrL8HVfnA2OmqqUWSsiPkCXhCX7RXdqUDvzwF-m3uccBa6ndA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ea7a0d2-e640-4549-ac0e-8ae0df8d8e6a@redhat.com>

On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 8:57 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 02.08.24 01:13, James Houghton wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 2:36 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 24.07.24 03:10, James Houghton wrote:
> >>> For implementers, the fast_only bool indicates that the age information
> >>> needs to be harvested such that we do not slow down other MMU operations,
> >>> and ideally that we are not ourselves slowed down by other MMU
> >>> operations.  Usually this means that the implementation should be
> >>> lockless.
> >>
> >> But what are the semantics if "fast_only" cannot be achieved by the
> >> implementer?
> >>
> >> Can we add some documentation to the new functions that explain what
> >> this mysterious "fast_only" is and what the expected semantics are?
> >> Please? :)
> >
> > Thanks for pointing out the missing documentation. How's this?
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/mmu_notifier.h b/include/linux/mmu_notifier.h
> > index 45c5995ebd84..c21992036dd3 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/mmu_notifier.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mmu_notifier.h
> > @@ -106,6 +106,18 @@ struct mmu_notifier_ops {
> >           * clear_young is a lightweight version of clear_flush_young. Like the
> >           * latter, it is supposed to test-and-clear the young/accessed bitflag
> >           * in the secondary pte, but it may omit flushing the secondary tlb.
> > +        *
>
> Probably makes sense to highlight the parameters like @fast_only

Will do.

>
> > +        * The fast_only parameter indicates that this call should not block,
> > +        * and this function should not cause other MMU notifier calls to
> > +        * block. Usually this means that the implementation should be
> > +        * lockless.
> > +        *
> > +        * When called with fast_only, this notifier will be a no-op unless
> > +        * has_fast_aging is set on the struct mmu_notifier.
>
> "... and will return 0 (NOT young)." ?

Thanks, I'll add this.

>
> > +        *
> > +        * When fast_only is true, if the implementer cannot determine that a
> > +        * range is young without blocking, it should return 0 (i.e.,
> > +        * that the range is NOT young).
> >           */
> >          int (*clear_young)(struct mmu_notifier *subscription,
> >                             struct mm_struct *mm,
> > @@ -118,6 +130,8 @@ struct mmu_notifier_ops {
> >           * the secondary pte. This is used to know if the page is
> >           * frequently used without actually clearing the flag or tearing
> >           * down the secondary mapping on the page.
> > +        *
> > +        * The fast_only parameter has the same meaning as with clear_young.
> >           */
> >          int (*test_young)(struct mmu_notifier *subscription,
> >                            struct mm_struct *mm,
> >
> > I've also moved the commit that follows this one (the one that adds
> > has_fast_aging) to be before this one so that the comment makes sense.
>
>
> Makes sense, thanks!

Thanks David!


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-05 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-24  1:10 [PATCH v6 00/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: Walk secondary MMU page tables while aging James Houghton
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] KVM: Add lockless memslot walk to KVM James Houghton
2024-07-25 16:39   ` David Matlack
2024-07-26  0:28     ` James Houghton
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] KVM: x86: Relax locking for kvm_test_age_gfn and kvm_age_gfn James Houghton
2024-07-25 18:07   ` David Matlack
2024-07-26  0:34     ` James Houghton
2024-08-17  1:05   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-30  0:35     ` James Houghton
2024-08-30  3:47       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-30 12:47         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30 17:09           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-30 20:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] KVM: arm64: " James Houghton
2024-07-25 21:55   ` James Houghton
2024-08-17  0:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-17  1:03       ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-19 20:41         ` Oliver Upton
2024-08-19 22:47           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-30  0:33           ` James Houghton
2024-08-30  0:48             ` Oliver Upton
2024-08-30 15:33               ` David Matlack
2024-08-30 17:38                 ` Oliver Upton
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] mm: Add missing mmu_notifier_clear_young for !MMU_NOTIFIER James Houghton
2024-08-01  9:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] mm: Add fast_only bool to test_young and clear_young MMU notifiers James Houghton
2024-08-01  9:36   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01 23:13     ` James Houghton
2024-08-02 15:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-05 16:54         ` James Houghton [this message]
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] mm: Add has_fast_aging to struct mmu_notifier James Houghton
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] KVM: Pass fast_only to kvm_{test_,}age_gfn James Houghton
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] KVM: x86: Optimize kvm_{test_,}age_gfn a little bit James Houghton
2024-07-25 18:17   ` David Matlack
2024-08-17  1:00     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-30  0:34       ` James Houghton
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] KVM: x86: Implement fast_only versions of kvm_{test_,}age_gfn James Houghton
2024-07-25 18:24   ` David Matlack
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: Have secondary MMUs participate in aging James Houghton
2024-07-24  1:10 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] KVM: selftests: Add multi-gen LRU aging to access_tracking_perf_test James Houghton

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