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From: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
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	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/46] mm: add MADV_SPLIT to enable HugeTLB HGM
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:33:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADrL8HXCopaYXZz_PO-6k4xnER+fAUjiNBu2=qp6NUyN1XeDBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izPDXHan7bwaiLO6mfNgjVMm=LRqUcuaCJbu8Wb_NN7kTw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 5:58 PM Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 4:28 PM James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Issuing ioctl(MADV_SPLIT) on a HugeTLB address range will enable
> > HugeTLB HGM. MADV_SPLIT was chosen for the name so that this API can be
> > applied to non-HugeTLB memory in the future, if such an application is
> > to arise.
> >
> > MADV_SPLIT provides several API changes for some syscalls on HugeTLB
> > address ranges:
> > 1. UFFDIO_CONTINUE is allowed for MAP_SHARED VMAs at PAGE_SIZE
> >    alignment.
> > 2. read()ing a page fault event from a userfaultfd will yield a
> >    PAGE_SIZE-rounded address, instead of a huge-page-size-rounded
> >    address (unless UFFD_FEATURE_EXACT_ADDRESS is used).
> >
> > There is no way to disable the API changes that come with issuing
> > MADV_SPLIT. MADV_COLLAPSE can be used to collapse high-granularity page
> > table mappings that come from the extended functionality that comes with
> > using MADV_SPLIT.
> >
>
> So is a hugetlb page or VMA that has been MADV_SPLIT + MADV_COLLAPSE
> distinct from a hugetlb page or vma that has not been? I thought
> COLLAPSE would reverse the effects on SPLIT completely.

Right now, MADV_COLLAPSE does *not* completely undo the effects of an
MADV_SPLIT. The API changes that come from MADV_SPLIT aren't undone
with an MADV_COLLAPSE.

>
> > For post-copy live migration, the expected use-case is:
> > 1. mmap(MAP_SHARED, some_fd) primary mapping
> > 2. mmap(MAP_SHARED, some_fd) alias mapping
> > 3. MADV_SPLIT the primary mapping
> > 4. UFFDIO_REGISTER/etc. the primary mapping
> > 5. Copy memory contents into alias mapping and UFFDIO_CONTINUE the
> >    corresponding PAGE_SIZE sections in the primary mapping.
> >
>
> Huh, so MADV_SPLIT doesn't actually split an existing PMD mapping into
> high granularity mappings. Instead it says that future mappings may be
> high granularity? I assume they may not even be high granularity, like
> if the alias mapping faulted in a full hugetlb page (without
> UFFDIO_CONTINUE) that page would be regular mapped not high
> granularity mapped.

MADV_SPLIT just means "userspace is aware that they are able to start
mapping HugeTLB pages at high-granularity". Right now the only way to
get high-granularity mappings is with UFFDIO_CONTINUE, but there may
be other ways in the future.

As of this series, if you MADV_SPLIT a HugeTLB VMA and you aren't
using userfaultfd minor faults, it's basically a no-op. The mappings
that are created will still be huge. I could change this, but I don't
really see a reason to right now.

>
> This may be bikeshedding but I do think a clearer name is warranted.
> Maybe MADV_MAY_SPLIT or something.

I agree -- MADV_MAY_SPLIT more accurately describes the HugeTLB
functionality. I really don't mind what the MADV is called.

I think enabling the high-granularity userfaultfd bits with a
userfaultfd feature[1] worked reasonably well. There is some API
discussion in that thread[1].

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20221021163703.3218176-34-jthoughton@google.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-18  0:27 [PATCH v2 00/46] hugetlb: introduce HugeTLB high-granularity mapping James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/46] hugetlb: don't set PageUptodate for UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:41   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 15:59     ` James Houghton
2023-02-21 19:33       ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-21 19:58         ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/46] hugetlb: remove mk_huge_pte; it is unused James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/46] hugetlb: remove redundant pte_mkhuge in migration path James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/46] hugetlb: only adjust address ranges when VMAs want PMD sharing James Houghton
2023-02-18  1:10   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/46] rmap: hugetlb: switch from page_dup_file_rmap to page_add_file_rmap James Houghton
2023-03-02  1:06   ` Jiaqi Yan
2023-03-02 15:44     ` James Houghton
2023-03-02 16:43       ` James Houghton
2023-03-02 19:22         ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/46] hugetlb: add CONFIG_HUGETLB_HIGH_GRANULARITY_MAPPING James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/46] mm: add VM_HUGETLB_HGM VMA flag James Houghton
2023-02-24 22:35   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/46] hugetlb: add HugeTLB HGM enablement helpers James Houghton
2023-02-18  1:40   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 16:16     ` James Houghton
2023-02-24 23:08   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/46] mm: add MADV_SPLIT to enable HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-02-18  1:58   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 16:33     ` James Houghton [this message]
2023-02-24 23:25   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-27 15:14     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/46] hugetlb: make huge_pte_lockptr take an explicit shift argument James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_pte to track HugeTLB page table entries James Houghton
2023-02-18  5:24   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-21 16:36     ` James Houghton
2023-02-25  0:09   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_alloc_pmd and hugetlb_alloc_pte James Houghton
2023-02-18 17:46   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-27 19:16   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-27 19:31     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_hgm_walk and hugetlb_walk_step James Houghton
2023-02-18  7:43   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-18 18:07   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-21 17:09     ` James Houghton
2023-02-28 22:14   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-28 23:03     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/46] hugetlb: split PTE markers when doing HGM walks James Houghton
2023-02-18 19:49   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-28 22:48   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 15/46] hugetlb: add make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-02-22 21:14   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-22 22:53     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 16/46] hugetlb: make default arch_make_huge_pte understand small mappings James Houghton
2023-02-22 21:17   ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-22 22:52     ` James Houghton
2023-02-28 23:02   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 17/46] hugetlbfs: do a full walk to check if vma maps a page James Houghton
2023-02-22 15:46   ` James Houghton
2023-02-28 23:52     ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 18/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to __unmap_hugepage_range James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 19/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to hugetlb_change_protection James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 20/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to follow_hugetlb_page James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 21/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to hugetlb_follow_page_mask James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 22/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to copy_hugetlb_page_range James Houghton
2023-02-24 17:39   ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 23/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to move_hugetlb_page_tables James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 24/46] hugetlb: add HGM support to hugetlb_fault and hugetlb_no_page James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 25/46] hugetlb: use struct hugetlb_pte for walk_hugetlb_range James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:27 ` [PATCH v2 26/46] mm: rmap: provide pte_order in page_vma_mapped_walk James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 27/46] mm: rmap: update try_to_{migrate,unmap} to handle mapcount for HGM James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 28/46] mm: rmap: in try_to_{migrate,unmap}, check head page for hugetlb page flags James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 29/46] hugetlb: update page_vma_mapped to do high-granularity walks James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 30/46] hugetlb: add high-granularity migration support James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 31/46] hugetlb: sort hstates in hugetlb_init_hstates James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 32/46] hugetlb: add for_each_hgm_shift James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 33/46] hugetlb: userfaultfd: add support for high-granularity UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 34/46] hugetlb: add MADV_COLLAPSE for hugetlb James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 35/46] hugetlb: add check to prevent refcount overflow via HGM James Houghton
2023-02-24 17:42   ` James Houghton
2023-02-24 18:05     ` James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 36/46] hugetlb: remove huge_pte_lock and huge_pte_lockptr James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 37/46] hugetlb: replace make_huge_pte with make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 38/46] mm: smaps: add stats for HugeTLB mapping size James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 39/46] hugetlb: x86: enable high-granularity mapping for x86_64 James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 40/46] docs: hugetlb: update hugetlb and userfaultfd admin-guides with HGM info James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 41/46] docs: proc: include information about HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 42/46] selftests/mm: add HugeTLB HGM to userfaultfd selftest James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 43/46] KVM: selftests: add HugeTLB HGM to KVM demand paging selftest James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 44/46] selftests/mm: add anon and shared hugetlb to migration test James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 45/46] selftests/mm: add hugetlb HGM test to migration selftest James Houghton
2023-02-18  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 46/46] selftests/mm: add HGM UFFDIO_CONTINUE and hwpoison tests James Houghton
2023-02-24 17:37   ` James Houghton
2023-02-21 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/46] hugetlb: introduce HugeTLB high-granularity mapping Mike Kravetz
2023-02-22 15:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-22 20:57     ` Mina Almasry
2023-02-23  9:07       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-23 15:53         ` James Houghton
2023-02-23 16:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-23 18:33             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2023-02-23 18:25           ` Mike Kravetz

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