From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: warn potential return NULL for kmalloc_array and kvmalloc_array with __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:18:02 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4wzpSLbteULhnTrQa_p5ETjiCTRHfF9Ph34=WZiub3irA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZpjJpvu5xWlDx4gD@tiehlicka>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 7:55 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu 18-07-24 19:41:33, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 7:27 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu 18-07-24 19:22:37, Barry Song wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > For future-proofing and security reasons, returning NULL for NOFAIL
> > > > still seems incorrect as the callers won't check the ret. If any future or
> > > > existing in-tree code has a potential bug which might be exploited by
> > > > hackers, for example
> > > >
> > > > ptr = kvmalloc_array(NOFAIL);
> > > > ptr->callback(); //ptr=NULL;
> > > >
> > > > callback could be a privilege escalation?
> > >
> > > Only if you allow to map zero page AFAIK. Nobody reasonable should be
> > > doing that.
> >
> > ptr->callback could be above /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr ?
>
> Yes, it can of course but this would require quite a stretch to trigger,
> no?
>
> Look at this from a real life code POV. You are allocating an array of
> callbacks (or structure of callbacks). In order to have this exploitable
> you need to direct the first dereference above mmap_min_addr.
>
> If you really want to protect from a code like that then WARN_ON doesn't
> buy you anything because it will stop the exploit only when
> panic_on_warn. You would need BUG_ON as mentioned by Christoph.
>
I actually also mentioned BUG_ON in the changelog "Likely BUG_ON()
seems better as anyway we can't fix it?" though the code is WARN_ON.
> So the real question is, do you want to stop exploits or do you want to
> debug potentially incorrect but mostly harmless buggy code?
I want to ensure that GFP_NOFAIL has consistent semantics—we don't
check the return value, and it must succeed, although allocating a large
amount of NOFAIL(I mean a number less than overflow) memory might
make the system "unusable". While GFP_NOFAIL itself behaves correctly,
it's inappropriate for the caller.
So the purpose is making sure the semantics - NOFAIL means no failure
and we don't need to check ret. If we can't really succeed, it should throw
a BUG to stop any potential exploits.
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
Thanks
Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-18 8:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-17 23:00 [PATCH RFC] mm: warn potential return NULL for kmalloc_array and kvmalloc_array with __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-07-18 6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18 7:12 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18 7:22 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 7:27 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:41 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 7:53 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:18 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-07-18 8:32 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:43 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 8:50 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 0:35 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:02 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 7:07 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:42 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 7:51 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 8:28 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 9:36 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 9:45 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 9:58 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 10:57 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:05 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 11:19 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 8:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 10:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 10:52 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 11:26 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 13:02 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 13:30 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-20 0:36 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 7:23 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 7:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-19 7:43 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-20 22:14 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 7:26 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 8:09 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 9:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 23:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-22 23:22 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18 7:48 ` Hailong Liu
2024-07-18 8:33 ` Barry Song
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