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dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="DDqlitA/"; spf=pass (imf30.hostedemail.com: domain of 21cnbao@gmail.com designates 209.85.208.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=21cnbao@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com X-Rspamd-Server: rspam04 X-HE-Tag: 1666993225-872197 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 2:11 AM Punit Agrawal wrote: > > Yicong Yang writes: > > > On 2022/10/27 22:19, Punit Agrawal wrote: > >> > >> [ Apologies for chiming in late in the conversation ] > >> > >> Anshuman Khandual writes: > >> > >>> On 9/28/22 05:53, Barry Song wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:15 PM Yicong Yang wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2022/9/27 14:16, Anshuman Khandual wrote: > >>>>>> [...] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 9/21/22 14:13, Yicong Yang wrote: > >>>>>>> +static inline bool arch_tlbbatch_should_defer(struct mm_struct *mm) > >>>>>>> +{ > >>>>>>> + /* for small systems with small number of CPUs, TLB shootdown is cheap */ > >>>>>>> + if (num_online_cpus() <= 4) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It would be great to have some more inputs from others, whether 4 (which should > >>>>>> to be codified into a macro e.g ARM64_NR_CPU_DEFERRED_TLB, or something similar) > >>>>>> is optimal for an wide range of arm64 platforms. > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I have tested it on a 4-cpus and 8-cpus machine. but i have no machine > >>>> with 5,6,7 > >>>> cores. > >>>> I saw improvement on 8-cpus machines and I found 4-cpus machines don't need > >>>> this patch. > >>>> > >>>> so it seems safe to have > >>>> if (num_online_cpus() < 8) > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Do you prefer this macro to be static or make it configurable through kconfig then > >>>>> different platforms can make choice based on their own situations? It maybe hard to > >>>>> test on all the arm64 platforms. > >>>> > >>>> Maybe we can have this default enabled on machines with 8 and more cpus and > >>>> provide a tlbflush_batched = on or off to allow users enable or > >>>> disable it according > >>>> to their hardware and products. Similar example: rodata=on or off. > >>> > >>> No, sounds bit excessive. Kernel command line options should not be added > >>> for every possible run time switch options. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi Anshuman, Will, Catalin, Andrew, > >>>> what do you think about this approach? > >>>> > >>>> BTW, haoxin mentioned another important user scenarios for tlb bach on arm64: > >>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/393d6318-aa38-01ed-6ad8-f9eac89bf0fc@linux.alibaba.com/ > >>>> > >>>> I do believe we need it based on the expensive cost of tlb shootdown in arm64 > >>>> even by hardware broadcast. > >>> > >>> Alright, for now could we enable ARCH_WANT_BATCHED_UNMAP_TLB_FLUSH selectively > >>> with CONFIG_EXPERT and for num_online_cpus() > 8 ? > >> > >> When running the test program in the commit in a VM, I saw benefits from > >> the patches at all sizes from 2, 4, 8, 32 vcpus. On the test machine, > >> ptep_clear_flush() went from ~1% in the unpatched version to not showing > >> up. > >> > > > > Maybe you're booting VM on a server with more than 32 cores and Barry tested > > on his 4 CPUs embedded platform. I guess a 4 CPU VM is not fully equivalent to > > a 4 CPU real machine as the tbli and dsb in the VM may influence the host > > as well. > > Yeah, I also wondered about this. > > I was able to test on a 6-core RK3399 based system - there the > ptep_clear_flush() was only 0.10% of the overall execution time. The > hardware seems to do a pretty good job of keeping the TLB flushing > overhead low. RK3399 has Dual-core ARM Cortex-A72 MPCore processor and Quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 MPCore processor. you are probably going to see different overhead of ptep_clear_flush() when you bind the micro-benchmark on different cores. > > [...] > Thanks Barry