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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, cl@linux.com, hailong.liu@oppo.com,
	hch@infradead.org, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	urezki@gmail.com, v-songbaohua@oppo.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: BUG_ON to avoid NULL deference while __GFP_NOFAIL fails
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 01:05:11 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4z-5ypPGoG6JDwRZGDt5Dby9r1tvh-txFdnkhQaKq8zGA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a31af580-f420-4b34-8945-0269914a901b@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:51 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 19.08.24 14:49, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 02:33:06PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >> It should all be caught during testing either way. And if some OOT module
> >> does something nasty, that's not our responsibility.
> >>
> >> BUG_ON is not a way to write assertions into the code.
> >
> > So you'd rather create exploits than crashing on a fundamental API
> > violation?  That's exactly what the series is trying to fix.
>
> I'd rather have a sane API that doesn't even allow this level of
> flexibility with NOFAIL.

yes, i have already sent a RFC enforcing direct_reclamation:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mm/msg394659.html

somehow, it is not ready yet. i think Christoph prefers scope
api rather than GFP_NOFAIL which definitely has
__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM set. I guess you know I have
at least  5 series running, so it will happen soon though.

>
> But probably I'm missing more details here why this all has to be so
> complicated ;)

enforcing direct_reclamation is right and will work for a reasonable size.
but for this overflow size, even if we enforce direct_reclamation
in GFP_NOFAIL, we are still failing.

>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-19 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-17  6:24 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation Barry Song
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] vduse: avoid using __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: document __GFP_NOFAIL must be blockable Barry Song
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: BUG_ON to avoid NULL deference while __GFP_NOFAIL fails Barry Song
2024-08-19  9:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19  9:47     ` Barry Song
2024-08-19  9:55       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:02         ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:33           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:48             ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 12:49               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 17:12                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 17:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 20:24                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 20:35                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 22:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-20  6:17                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 12:51               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:53                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-19 13:14                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:05                 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-08-19 13:10                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:19                     ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 13:22                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-17  6:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: prohibit NULL deference exposed for unsupported non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-08-18  2:55   ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18  3:48     ` Barry Song
2024-08-18  5:51       ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18  6:27         ` Barry Song
2024-08-18  6:45           ` Barry Song
2024-08-18  7:07             ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-18  7:25               ` Barry Song
2024-08-19  7:51               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19  7:50     ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19  9:25       ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19  9:39         ` Barry Song
2024-08-19  9:45           ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 10:10             ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 11:56               ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:17                   ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 14:01                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 10:17         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 11:56           ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-19 12:04             ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19  9:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 10:19     ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-19 12:48       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 13:02 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 16:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 19:23     ` Barry Song
2024-08-19 19:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-19 21:48         ` Barry Song
2024-08-20  6:24         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-21 12:40     ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-21 22:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  6:21         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  6:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  6:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  7:47               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  7:57                 ` Barry Song
2024-08-22  8:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  8:39                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  9:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:16                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:24                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:11                       ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:18                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:33                           ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:59                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22 10:30                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 10:46                                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:27                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  9:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22  9:43                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  9:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-22 11:58                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-08-26 12:10                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27  6:57                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-27  7:15                               ` Barry Song
2024-08-27  7:38                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-27  7:50                                   ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 10:24                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-29 11:53                                       ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 13:20                                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-29 21:27                                           ` Barry Song
2024-08-29 22:31                                             ` Barry Song
2024-08-30  7:24                                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-30  7:37                                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-22  9:41                           ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  9:42                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-22  7:01             ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22  7:54               ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-22  8:04                 ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22 14:35                   ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-22 15:02                     ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-22  6:37       ` Barry Song
2024-08-22 14:22         ` Yafang Shao

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