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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>, Gao Xiang <xiang@kernel.org>,
	 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/6] mm: vmscan: Avoid split during shrink_folio_list()
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:30:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4zq4jdDdG6Cne6SESSmJQJnGwaQF5y3BHOaLHFdED0zYg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240311150058.1122862-6-ryan.roberts@arm.com>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 11:01 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Now that swap supports storing all mTHP sizes, avoid splitting large
> folios before swap-out. This benefits performance of the swap-out path
> by eliding split_folio_to_list(), which is expensive, and also sets us
> up for swapping in large folios in a future series.
>
> If the folio is partially mapped, we continue to split it since we want
> to avoid the extra IO overhead and storage of writing out pages
> uneccessarily.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> ---
>  mm/vmscan.c | 9 +++++----
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index cf7d4cf47f1a..0ebec99e04c6 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1222,11 +1222,12 @@ static unsigned int shrink_folio_list(struct list_head *folio_list,
>                                         if (!can_split_folio(folio, NULL))
>                                                 goto activate_locked;
>                                         /*
> -                                        * Split folios without a PMD map right
> -                                        * away. Chances are some or all of the
> -                                        * tail pages can be freed without IO.
> +                                        * Split partially mapped folios map
> +                                        * right away. Chances are some or all
> +                                        * of the tail pages can be freed
> +                                        * without IO.
>                                          */
> -                                       if (!folio_entire_mapcount(folio) &&
> +                                       if (!list_empty(&folio->_deferred_list) &&

Hi Ryan,
After reconsidering our previous discussion about PMD-mapped large
folios, I've pondered
the possibility of PMD-mapped Transparent Huge Pages (THPs) being
mapped by multiple
processes. In such a scenario, if one process decides to unmap a
portion of the folio while
others retain the entire mapping, it raises questions about how the
system should handle
this situation. Would the large folio be placed in a deferred list? If
so, splitting it might not
yield benefits, as neither I/O nor swap slots would increase in this
case by not splitting it.

Regarding PTE-mapped large folios, the absence of an indicator like
"entire_map" makes it
challenging to identify cases where the entire folio is mapped. Thus,
splitting seems to be
the only viable solution in such circumstances.

>                                             split_folio_to_list(folio,
>                                                                 folio_list))
>                                                 goto activate_locked;
> --
> 2.25.1

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-11 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-11 15:00 [PATCH v4 0/6] Swap-out mTHP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] mm: swap: Remove CLUSTER_FLAG_HUGE from swap_cluster_info:flags Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] mm: swap: free_swap_and_cache_nr() as batched free_swap_and_cache() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 11:10   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 14:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-20 14:21       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] mm: swap: Simplify struct percpu_cluster Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  7:52   ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-12  8:51     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  1:34       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] mm: swap: Allow storage of all mTHP orders Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  7:51   ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-12  9:40     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  1:33       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-20 12:22     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-21  4:39       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-21 12:21         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-22  2:38           ` Can you help us on memory barrier usage? (was Re: [PATCH v4 4/6] mm: swap: Allow storage of all mTHP orders) Huang, Ying
2024-03-22  9:23             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-25  3:20               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-22 13:19             ` Chris Li
2024-03-23  2:11             ` Akira Yokosawa
2024-03-25  0:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-25  3:16                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-26 17:08                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-25  3:00               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-22  2:39           ` [PATCH v4 4/6] mm: swap: Allow storage of all mTHP orders Huang, Ying
2024-03-22  9:39             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] mm: vmscan: Avoid split during shrink_folio_list() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 22:30   ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-03-12  8:12     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  8:40       ` Barry Song
2024-03-15 10:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-15 10:49     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-15 11:12       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-15 11:38         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-18  2:16           ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-18 10:00             ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-03-18 10:05               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-18 15:35                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-18 15:36                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-19  2:20                   ` Yin Fengwei
2024-03-19 14:40                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-19  2:31                 ` Yin Fengwei
2024-03-11 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] mm: madvise: Avoid split during MADV_PAGEOUT and MADV_COLD Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  7:19   ` Barry Song
2024-03-13  9:03     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  9:16       ` Barry Song
2024-03-13  9:36         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13 10:37           ` Barry Song
2024-03-13 11:08             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13 11:37               ` Barry Song
2024-03-13 12:02                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  9:19       ` Lance Yang
2024-03-13 14:02       ` Lance Yang
2024-03-20 13:49         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 14:35           ` Lance Yang
2024-03-20 17:38             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-21  1:38               ` Lance Yang
2024-03-21 13:38                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-21 14:55                   ` Lance Yang
2024-03-21 15:24                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-22  0:56                       ` Lance Yang
     [not found]   ` <ffeee7da-e625-40dc-8da8-b70e4e6ef935@redhat.com>
2024-03-15 10:55     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-15 11:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-20 13:57     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-20 14:09       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-12  8:01 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Swap-out mTHP without splitting Huang, Ying
2024-03-12  8:49   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12 13:56     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-13  1:15       ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-13  8:50         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-12  8:45 ` Ryan Roberts

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