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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/9] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring struct page
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:53:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izP2Y4FMfHyTU6u5NRT45raM9isXJZPY4LMC8c03dGUPJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250609123255.18f14000@kernel.org>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 12:32 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon,  9 Jun 2025 13:32:17 +0900 Byungchul Park wrote:
> > To simplify struct page, the page pool members of struct page should be
> > moved to other, allowing these members to be removed from struct page.
> >
> > Introduce a network memory descriptor to store the members, struct
> > netmem_desc, and make it union'ed with the existing fields in struct
> > net_iov, allowing to organize the fields of struct net_iov.
>
> What's the intended relation between the types?
>
> netmem_ref exists to clearly indicate that memory may not be readable.
> Majority of memory we expect to allocate from page pool must be
> kernel-readable. What's the plan for reading the "single pointer"
> memory within the kernel?
>
> I think you're approaching this problem from the easiest and least
> relevant direction. Are you coordinating with David Howells?

FWIW I did point David to this work in a tangentially related thread:

https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CAHS8izMMU8QZrvXRiDjqwsBg_34s+dhvSyrU7XGMBuPF6eWyTA@mail.gmail.com/

I think yes it would be good to get a reviewed-by or acked-by from
Matthew or David to show that this approach is in line with their
plans?

From my end I tried to review to:

1. Make sure the changes are compatible with net_iov/netmem_ref.
2. Make sure what's implemented here is in line with the memdesc
effort Matthew lists here[1]. In particular the netmem_desc struct
introduced here is very similar to the zpdesc and ptdesc structs
mentioned as an example in [1].

[1] https://kernelnewbies.org/MatthewWilcox/Memdescs/Path

-- 
Thanks,
Mina


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-11 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-09  4:32 [PATCH net-next 0/9] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring " Byungchul Park
2025-06-09 19:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-10  1:30     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-12  1:55       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-13  1:13         ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-14  2:19           ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-17  2:31             ` netmem series needs some love and Acks from MM folks Harry Yoo
2025-06-17 16:09               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 16:32                 ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-18  0:08                 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-18  7:51                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-20  4:12             ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-11 20:53     ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2025-06-12  1:58       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-17  2:20   ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-19  9:32   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-10 11:15   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-06-10 11:11   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-10 11:11   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] netmem: introduce a netmem API, virt_to_head_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  4:32 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-09 17:39   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-10  1:45     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-11 14:30       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-12  0:39         ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-17  2:37         ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-19  9:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-19 10:42     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-09  6:49 ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-11 14:25 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-11 20:48   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-12  0:40     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-16  7:45     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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