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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
Cc: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel_team@skhynix.com,  kuba@kernel.org,
	ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
	 hawk@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, ast@kernel.org,
	 daniel@iogearbox.net, davem@davemloft.net,
	john.fastabend@gmail.com,  andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
	edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,  vishal.moola@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 01/19] netmem: rename struct net_iov to struct netmem_desc
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 12:14:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izPoNw9qbtAZgsNxAAPYqu7czdRYSZAXVZbJo9pP-htfDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250512132939.GF45370@system.software.com>

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 6:29 AM Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 02:11:13PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> > On 5/9/25 12:51, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > > To simplify struct page, the page pool members of struct page should be
> > > moved to other, allowing these members to be removed from struct page.
> > >
> > > Reuse struct net_iov for also system memory, that already mirrored the
> > > page pool members.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
> > > ---
> > >   include/linux/skbuff.h                  |  4 +--
> > >   include/net/netmem.h                    | 20 ++++++------
> > >   include/net/page_pool/memory_provider.h |  6 ++--
> > >   io_uring/zcrx.c                         | 42 ++++++++++++-------------
> >
> > You're unnecessarily complicating it for yourself. It'll certainly
> > conflict with changes in the io_uring tree, and hence it can't
> > be taken normally through the net tree.
> >
> > Why are you renaming it in the first place? If there are good
>
> It's because the struct should be used for not only io vetor things but
> also system memory.  Current network code uses struct page as system
> memory descriptor but struct page fields for page pool will be gone.
>
> So I had to reuse struct net_iov and I thought renaming it made more
> sense.  It'd be welcome if you have better idea.
>

As I said in another thread, struct page should not embed struct
net_iov as-is. struct net_iov already has fields that are unrelated to
page (like net_iov_owner) and more will be added in the future.

I think what Matthew seems to agree with AFAIU in the other thread is
creating a new struct, struct netmem_desc, and having struct net_iov
embed netmem_desc.


-- 
Thanks,
Mina


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-12 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09 11:51 [RFC 00/19] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 01/19] netmem: rename struct net_iov to struct netmem_desc Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 13:11   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-12 13:29     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 19:14       ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2025-05-13  2:00         ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-13 12:58           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-13 12:49       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-14  0:07         ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 02/19] netmem: introduce netmem alloc/put API to wrap page alloc/put API Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 13:39   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 14:08     ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-12 12:30       ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 03/19] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put API in __page_pool_alloc_page_order() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 04/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_page_order() to __page_pool_alloc_large_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 05/19] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put API in __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 06/19] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 07/19] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put API in page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 08/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 09/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_put_page() to __page_pool_put_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 10/19] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 11/19] mlx4: use netmem descriptor and API for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 12/19] netmem: introduce page_pool_recycle_direct_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 13/19] page_pool: expand scope of is_pp_{netmem,page}() to global Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 12:46   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-12 12:55     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-14  3:00     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-14 11:17       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 14/19] mm: page_alloc: do not directly access page->pp_magic but use is_pp_page() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 15/19] mlx5: use netmem descriptor and API for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 16/19] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 17/19] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 13:47   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 18/19] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 13:49   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-10  7:28   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-05-09 11:51 ` [RFC 19/19] mm, netmem: remove the page pool members in struct page Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 17:32   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 18:11     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-09 19:04       ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 19:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-12 19:10           ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-09 18:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-12 12:51     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 14:42       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-13  1:42         ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-13  3:19           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-13 10:24             ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-10  7:26   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-05-12 12:58     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-09 14:09 ` [RFC 00/19] Split netmem from " Mina Almasry
2025-05-12 12:36   ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-12 12:59     ` Pavel Begunkov

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