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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, liam.howlett@oracle.com, willy@infradead.org,
	 ldufour@linux.ibm.com, michel@lespinasse.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] about the maple tree and current status of mmap_lock scalability
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:10:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpFUh4qGqePueUd5snz27nxLUPehQeAmbkshheno==KtcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EC51CFA7-2BC8-4F72-A7D4-3B1A778EDB37@gmail.com>

Hi Hyeonggon,

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 4:49 AM Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello mm folks,
>
> I have a few questions about the current status of mmap_lock scalability.
>
> =============================================================
> What is currently causing the kernel to use mmap_lock to protect the maple tree?
> =============================================================
>
> I understand that the long-term goal is to remove the need for mmap_lock in readers
> while traversing the maple tree, using techniques such as RCU or SPF.
> What is the biggest obstacle preventing this from being achieved at this time?

Maple tree has an RCU mode which does not need mmap_lock for
traversal. Liam and I were testing it recently and Liam fixed a number
of issues to enable it. It seems stable now and the fixes are
incorporated into the "per-vma locks" patchset which I prepared in
this branch: https://github.com/surenbaghdasaryan/linux/tree/per_vma_lock.
I haven't posted this patchset upstream yet but it's pretty much ready
to go. I'm planning to post it in early January.
Thanks,
Suren.

>
> ==================================================
> How does the maple tree provide RCU-safe manipulation of VMAs?
> ==================================================
>
> Is it similar to the approach suggested in the RCUVM paper (replacing the original
> root node with a new root node that shares most of its nodes and deferring
> the freeing of stale nodes using RCU)?
>
> I'm having difficulty understanding the design of the maple tree in this regard.
>
> [RCUVM paper] https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/rcuvm:asplos12.pdf
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> ---
> Hyeonggon


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-28 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-28 12:48 [QUESTION] about the maple tree and current status of mmap_lock scalability Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-12-28 17:10 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2022-12-29 11:33   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-12-28 20:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-12-29 14:22   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-12-29 16:51     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-12-29 17:10       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2022-12-29 17:21         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-12-29 17:31         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-02 12:04       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-01-02 14:37         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-20 14:26           ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-02-20 14:43             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-22 11:38               ` Hyeonggon Yoo

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