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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	 Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] alloc_tag: config to store page allocation tag refs in page flags
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:04:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpGV3hwCRJj6D-SnSOc+VEe5=_045R1aGJEuYCL7WESsrg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZxJcryjDUk_LzOuj@tiehlicka>

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 6:03 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue 15-10-24 08:58:59, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 8:42 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > > Right, I think what John is concerned about (and me as well) is that
> > > once a new feature really needs a page flag, there will be objection
> > > like "no you can't, we need them for allocation tags otherwise that
> > > feature will be degraded".
> >
> > I do understand your concern but IMHO the possibility of degrading a
> > feature should not be a reason to always operate at degraded capacity
> > (which is what we have today). If one is really concerned about
> > possible future regression they can set
> > CONFIG_PGALLOC_TAG_USE_PAGEFLAGS=n and keep what we have today. That's
> > why I'm strongly advocating that we do need
> > CONFIG_PGALLOC_TAG_USE_PAGEFLAGS so that the user has control over how
> > this scarce resource is used.
>
> I really do not think users will know how/why to setup this and I wouldn't
> even bother them thinking about that at all TBH.
>
> This is an implementation detail. It is fine to reuse unused flags space
> as a storage as a performance optimization but why do you want users to
> bother with that? Why would they ever want to say N here?

In this patch you can find a couple of warnings that look like this:

pr_warn("With module %s there are too many tags to fit in %d page flag
bits. Memory profiling is disabled!\n", mod->name,
NR_UNUSED_PAGEFLAG_BITS);
emitted when we run out of page flag bits during a module loading,

pr_err("%s: alignment %lu is incompatible with allocation tag
indexing, disable CONFIG_PGALLOC_TAG_USE_PAGEFLAGS",  mod->name,
align);
emitted when the arch-specific section alignment is incompatible with
alloc_tag indexing.

I'll change the first one to also specifically guide the user to
disable CONFIG_PGALLOC_TAG_USE_PAGEFLAGS.
When these happen, memory profiling gets disabled automatically. These
two cases would be the main ones when the user would want to disable
CONFIG_PGALLOC_TAG_USE_PAGEFLAGS to keep memory profiling enabled.
I also think when we auto-disable memory profiling at runtime like
that, I should make /proc/allocinfo empty so that it's apparent it is
disabled and the user does not use stale data.


> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-18 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-14 20:36 [PATCH v3 0/5] page allocation tag compression Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] maple_tree: add mas_for_each_rev() helper Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-16  1:48   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-10-16  5:33     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] alloc_tag: load module tags into separate contiguous memory Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 23:51   ` Andrew Morton
2024-10-15  2:10     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 21:08       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-15 22:59         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] alloc_tag: populate memory for module tags as needed Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 12:15   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-10-15 14:49     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] alloc_tag: introduce pgalloc_tag_ref to abstract page tag references Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] alloc_tag: config to store page allocation tag refs in page flags Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 23:48   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-14 23:53     ` John Hubbard
2024-10-14 23:56       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-15  0:03         ` John Hubbard
2024-10-15  1:40           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-15  2:03             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15  1:58           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15  8:10             ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-15 15:06               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15  7:32       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-15 14:59         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 15:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-15 15:58             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-18 13:03               ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-18 16:04                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2024-10-18 17:08                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-18 17:45                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-18 21:57                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21  7:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21  9:13                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 15:05                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 15:34                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21 15:41                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 15:49                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 15:57                                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21 16:16                                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 16:23                                       ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21 16:32                                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 18:12                                           ` John Hubbard
2024-10-21  7:21                       ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-14 23:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] page allocation tag compression Andrew Morton
2024-10-15  1:48   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 16:26     ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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