From: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
To: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 28/28] mm, swap: implement dynamic allocation of swap table
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 11:36:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKEwX=MmD___ukRrx=hLo7d_m1J_uG_Ke+us7RQgFUV2OSg38w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250514201729.48420-29-ryncsn@gmail.com>
On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 1:20 PM Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>
> Now swap table is cluster based, which means free clusters can free its
> table since no one should modify it.
>
> There could be speculative readers, like swap cache look up, protect
> them by making them RCU safe. All swap table should be filled with null
> entries before free, so such readers will either see a NULL pointer or
> a null filled table being lazy freed.
>
> On allocation, allocate the table when a cluster is used by any order.
>
> This way, we can reduce the memory usage of large swap device
> significantly.
>
> This idea to dynamically release unused swap cluster data was initially
> suggested by Chris Li while proposing the cluster swap allocator and
> I found it suits the swap table idea very well.
>
> Suggested-by: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
Nice optimization!
However, please correct me if I'm wrong - but we are only dynamically
allocating the swap table with this patch. What we are getting here is
the dynamic allocation of the swap entries' metadata (through the swap
table), which my virtual swap prototype already provides. The cluster
metadata struct (struct swap_cluster_info) itself is statically
allocated still (at swapon time), correct? That will not work for a
large virtual swap space :( So unfortunately, even with this swap
table series, swap virtualization is still not trivial - definitely
not as trivial as a new swap device type...
Reading your physical swapfile allocator gives me some ideas though -
let me build it into my prototype :) I'll send it out once it's ready.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-21 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-14 20:17 [PATCH 00/28] mm, swap: introduce swap table Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 01/28] mm, swap: don't scan every fragment cluster Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 02/28] mm, swap: consolidate the helper for mincore Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 03/28] mm/shmem, swap: remove SWAP_MAP_SHMEM Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 04/28] mm, swap: split readahead update out of swap cache lookup Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 05/28] mm, swap: sanitize swap cache lookup convention Kairui Song
2025-05-19 4:38 ` Barry Song
2025-05-20 3:31 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-20 4:41 ` Barry Song
2025-05-20 19:09 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-20 22:33 ` Barry Song
2025-05-21 2:45 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-21 3:24 ` Barry Song
2025-05-23 2:29 ` Barry Song
2025-05-23 20:01 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-27 7:58 ` Barry Song
2025-05-27 15:11 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-30 8:49 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-30 19:24 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 06/28] mm, swap: rearrange swap cluster definition and helpers Kairui Song
2025-05-19 6:26 ` Barry Song
2025-05-20 3:50 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 07/28] mm, swap: tidy up swap device and cluster info helpers Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 08/28] mm, swap: use swap table for the swap cache and switch API Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 09/28] mm/swap: rename __read_swap_cache_async to __swapin_cache_alloc Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 10/28] mm, swap: add a swap helper for bypassing only read ahead Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 11/28] mm, swap: clean up and consolidate helper for mTHP swapin check Kairui Song
2025-05-15 9:31 ` Klara Modin
2025-05-15 9:39 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-19 7:08 ` Barry Song
2025-05-19 11:09 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-19 11:57 ` Barry Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 12/28] mm, swap: never bypass the swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 13/28] mm/shmem, swap: avoid redundant Xarray lookup during swapin Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 14/28] mm/shmem: never bypass the swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 15/28] mm, swap: split locked entry freeing into a standalone helper Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 16/28] mm, swap: use swap cache as the swap in synchronize layer Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 17/28] mm, swap: sanitize swap entry management workflow Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 18/28] mm, swap: rename and introduce folio_free_swap_cache Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 19/28] mm, swap: clean up and improve swap entries batch freeing Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 20/28] mm, swap: check swap table directly for checking cache Kairui Song
2025-06-19 10:38 ` Baoquan He
2025-06-19 10:50 ` Kairui Song
2025-06-20 8:04 ` Baoquan He
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 21/28] mm, swap: add folio to swap cache directly on allocation Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 22/28] mm, swap: drop the SWAP_HAS_CACHE flag Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 23/28] mm, swap: remove no longer needed _swap_info_get Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 24/28] mm, swap: implement helpers for reserving data in swap table Kairui Song
2025-05-15 9:40 ` Klara Modin
2025-05-16 2:35 ` Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 25/28] mm/workingset: leave highest 8 bits empty for anon shadow Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 26/28] mm, swap: minor clean up for swapon Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 27/28] mm, swap: use swap table to track swap count Kairui Song
2025-05-14 20:17 ` [PATCH 28/28] mm, swap: implement dynamic allocation of swap table Kairui Song
2025-05-21 18:36 ` Nhat Pham [this message]
2025-05-22 4:13 ` Kairui Song
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