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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Ren, Qiaowei" <qiaowei.ren@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 02/10] x86, mpx: add MPX specific mmap interface
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:26:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVR9QB3QvA2x_JjAXCFoqMw4B+byFTPDC3gQMUC1C-2NA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53ACB8A7.9050002@intel.com>

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
> On 06/26/2014 04:15 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> So here's my mental image of how I might do this if I were doing it
>> entirely in userspace: I'd create a file or memfd for the bound tables
>> and another for the bound directory.  These files would be *huge*: the
>> bound directory file would be 2GB and the bounds table file would be
>> 2^48 bytes or whatever it is.  (Maybe even bigger?)
>>
>> Then I'd just map pieces of those files wherever they'd need to be,
>> and I'd make the mappings sparse.  I suspect that you don't actually
>> want a vma for each piece of bound table that gets mapped -- the space
>> of vmas could end up incredibly sparse.  So I'd at least map (in the
>> vma sense, not the pte sense) and entire bound table at a time.  And
>> I'd probably just map the bound directory in one big piece.
>>
>> Then I'd populate it in the fault handler.
>>
>> This is almost what the code is doing, I think, modulo the files.
>>
>> This has one killer problem: these mappings need to be private (cowed
>> on fork).  So memfd is no good.
>
> This essentially uses the page cache's radix tree as a parallel data
> structure in order to keep a vaddr->mpx_vma map.  That's not a bad idea,
> but it is a parallel data structure that does not handle copy-on-write
> very well.
>
> I'm pretty sure we need the semantics that anonymous memory provides.
>
>> There's got to be an easyish way to
>> modify the mm code to allow anonymous maps with vm_ops.  Maybe a new
>> mmap_region parameter or something?  Maybe even a special anon_vma,
>> but I don't really understand how those work.
>
> Yeah, we very well might end up having to go down that path.
>
>> Also, egads: what happens when a bound table entry is associated with
>> a MAP_SHARED page?
>
> Bounds table entries are for pointers.  Do we keep pointers inside of
> MAP_SHARED-mapped things? :)

Sure, if it's MAP_SHARED | MAP_ANONYMOUS.  For example:

struct thing {
  struct thing *next;
};

struct thing *storage = mmap(..., MAP_SHARED | MAP_ANONYMOUS, ...);
storage[0].next = &storage[1];
fork();

I'm not suggesting that this needs to *work* in the first incarnation of this :)

--Andy

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-27  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1403084656-27284-1-git-send-email-qiaowei.ren@intel.com>
2014-06-18 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 00/10] Intel MPX support Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <1403084656-27284-3-git-send-email-qiaowei.ren@intel.com>
2014-06-23 19:49   ` [PATCH v6 02/10] x86, mpx: add MPX specific mmap interface Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-23 20:03     ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-23 20:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-23 20:28         ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-23 21:04           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-24  5:53             ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-06-24 23:55               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-25  1:40                 ` Ren, Qiaowei
2014-06-25 21:04                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-25 21:05                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-25 21:45                       ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-26 22:19                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-26 22:58                           ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-26 23:15                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-27  0:19                               ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-27  0:26                                 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2014-06-27 17:34                                   ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-27 17:42                                     ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-27 18:57                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-25 21:43                     ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-24  2:53     ` Ren, Qiaowei

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