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From: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm/page_alloc: Introduce a new sysctl knob vm.pcp_batch_scale_max
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:21:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALOAHbAnAPkYu4oDHgW48N_e+OSqzo6AzOnGY-LNPTDa48RU9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878qyaarm6.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 10:51 AM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > The configuration parameter PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX poses challenges for
> > quickly experimenting with specific workloads in a production environment,
> > particularly when monitoring latency spikes caused by contention on the
> > zone->lock. To address this, a new sysctl parameter vm.pcp_batch_scale_max
> > is introduced as a more practical alternative.
>
> In general, I'm neutral to the change.  I can understand that kernel
> configuration isn't as flexible as sysctl knob.  But, sysctl knob is ABI
> too.
>
> > To ultimately mitigate the zone->lock contention issue, several suggestions
> > have been proposed. One approach involves dividing large zones into multi
> > smaller zones, as suggested by Matthew[0], while another entails splitting
> > the zone->lock using a mechanism similar to memory arenas and shifting away
> > from relying solely on zone_id to identify the range of free lists a
> > particular page belongs to[1]. However, implementing these solutions is
> > likely to necessitate a more extended development effort.
>
> Per my understanding, the change will hurt instead of improve zone->lock
> contention.  Instead, it will reduce page allocation/freeing latency.

I'm quite perplexed by your recent comment. You introduced a
configuration that has proven to be difficult to use, and you have
been resistant to suggestions for modifying it to a more user-friendly
and practical tuning approach. May I inquire about the rationale
behind introducing this configuration in the beginning?

-- 
Regards
Yafang


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-11  2:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-07  9:49 [PATCH 0/3] mm/page_alloc: Introduce a new sysctl knob vm.pcp_batch_scale_max Yafang Shao
2024-07-07  9:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/page_alloc: A minor fix to the calculation of pcp->free_count Yafang Shao
2024-07-10  1:52   ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-07  9:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/page_alloc: Avoid changing pcp->high decaying when adjusting CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX Yafang Shao
2024-07-10  1:51   ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-10  2:07     ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-07  9:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/page_alloc: Introduce a new sysctl knob vm.pcp_batch_scale_max Yafang Shao
2024-07-10  2:49   ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11  2:21     ` Yafang Shao [this message]
2024-07-11  6:42       ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11  7:25         ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11  8:18           ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11  9:51             ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 10:49               ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 12:45                 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  1:19                   ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12  2:25                     ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  3:05                       ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12  3:44                         ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  5:25                           ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12  5:41                             ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  6:16                               ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12  6:41                                 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  7:04                                   ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12  7:36                                     ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  8:24                                       ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12  8:49                                         ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  9:10                                           ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12  9:24                                             ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  9:46                                               ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-15  1:09                                                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-15  4:32                                                   ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-10  3:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Huang, Ying
2024-07-11  2:25   ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11  6:38     ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11  7:21       ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11  8:36         ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11  9:40           ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 11:03             ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 12:40               ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12  2:32                 ` Huang, Ying

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