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From: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,  Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Yafang Shao <shaoyafang@didiglobal.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/vmscan: shrink slab in node reclaim
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:03:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALOAHbBPSJx4ZmsEDt6LfbVSPW1CfYTrbQvGas_SDWVd_v0wEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190806155904.rwd7tmbbpmif4edh@ca-dmjordan1.us.oracle.com>

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 11:59 PM Daniel Jordan
<daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 07:35:29PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:15 PM Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 05:32:54PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 5:25 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue 06-08-19 17:15:05, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 5:05 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > As you said, the direct reclaim path set it to 1, but the
> > > > > > > > __node_reclaim() forgot to process may_shrink_slab.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, I am blind obviously. Sorry about that. Anyway, why cannot we simply
> > > > > > > get back to the original behavior by setting may_shrink_slab in that
> > > > > > > path as well?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You mean do it as the commit 0ff38490c836 did  before ?
> > > > > > I haven't check in which commit the shrink_slab() is removed from
> > > > >
> > > > > What I've had in mind was essentially this:
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > > > > index 7889f583ced9..8011288a80e2 100644
> > > > > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > > > > @@ -4088,6 +4093,7 @@ static int __node_reclaim(struct pglist_data *pgdat, gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned in
> > > > >                 .may_unmap = !!(node_reclaim_mode & RECLAIM_UNMAP),
> > > > >                 .may_swap = 1,
> > > > >                 .reclaim_idx = gfp_zone(gfp_mask),
> > > > > +               .may_shrinkslab = 1;
> > > > >         };
> > > > >
> > > > >         trace_mm_vmscan_node_reclaim_begin(pgdat->node_id, order,
> > > > >
> > > > > shrink_node path already does shrink slab when the flag allows that. In
> > > > > other words get us back to before 1c30844d2dfe because that has clearly
> > > > > changed the long term node reclaim behavior just recently.
> > > > > --
> > > >
> > > > If we do it like this, then vm.min_slab_ratio will not take effect if
> > > > there're enough relcaimable page cache.
> > > > Seems there're bugs in the original behavior as well.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Typically that would be done as a separate patch with a standalone
> > > justification for it. The first patch should simply restore expected
> > > behaviour with a Fixes: tag noting that the change in behaviour was
> > > unintentional.
> > >
> >
> > Sure, I will do it.
>
> Do you plan to send the second patch?  If not I think we should at least update
> the documentation for the admittedly obscure vm.min_slab_ratio to reflect its
> effect on node reclaim, which is currently none.

I don't have a explicit plan when to post the second patch because I'm
not sure when it will be ready.
If your workload depends on vm.min_slab_ratio, you could post a fix
for it if you would like to. I will appreciate it.

I don't think it is a good idea to document it, because this is not a
limitation, while it is really a issue.

Thanks
Yafang


  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-07  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-06  7:19 [PATCH v2] mm/vmscan: shrink slab in node reclaim Yafang Shao
2019-08-06  7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06  7:41   ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06  8:57     ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06  9:05       ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06  9:15         ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06  9:25           ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06  9:32             ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06 11:14               ` Mel Gorman
2019-08-06 11:35                 ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06 15:59                   ` Daniel Jordan
2019-08-07  1:03                     ` Yafang Shao [this message]
2019-08-07 15:03                       ` Daniel Jordan
2019-08-06  9:50             ` Mel Gorman
2019-08-06  9:54               ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06 10:28                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06 10:59                   ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06 11:09                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06 11:34                       ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06 11:58                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-06  8:23   ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-06 15:29     ` Daniel Jordan
2019-08-07  1:00       ` Yafang Shao
2019-08-07 15:03         ` Daniel Jordan

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