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From: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,  ziy@nvidia.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	 npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org,  usamaarif642@gmail.com,
	gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com,  willy@infradead.org,
	ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	 ameryhung@gmail.com, rientjes@google.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 mm-new 03/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task()
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:50:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALOAHbCc7upWnZuAsxSvW0LAwMi+RzAYZh9MzO52+B=TcY8NzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzaOA-3NtwTmrPgveqbW16m3KZAAA1E_xn_qjtiJBGsE4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 5:50 AM Andrii Nakryiko
<andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 8:48 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
> <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 03:19:41PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > We will utilize this new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task() to retrieve the
> > > associated task_struct from the given @mm. The obtained task_struct must
> > > be released by calling bpf_task_release() as a paired operation.
> >
> > You're basically describing the patch you're not saying why - yeah you're
> > getting a task struct from an mm (only if CONFIG_MEMCG which you don't
> > mention here), but not for what purpose you intend to use this?
> >
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > >  mm/bpf_thp.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/mm/bpf_thp.c b/mm/bpf_thp.c
> > > index b757e8f425fd..46b3bc96359e 100644
> > > --- a/mm/bpf_thp.c
> > > +++ b/mm/bpf_thp.c
> > > @@ -205,11 +205,45 @@ __bpf_kfunc void bpf_put_mem_cgroup(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> > >  #endif
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +/**
> > > + * bpf_mm_get_task - Get the task struct associated with a mm_struct.
> > > + * @mm: The mm_struct to query
> > > + *
> > > + * The obtained task_struct must be released by calling bpf_task_release().
> >
> > Hmmm so now bpf programs can cause kernel bugs by keeping a reference around?
>
> BPF verifier will reject any program that cannot guarantee that
> bpf_task_release() will always be called. So there shouldn't be any
> problem here.

Thanks for the clarification.

>
> >
> > This feels extremely dodgy, I don't like this at all.
> >
> > I thought the whole point of BPF was that this kind of thing couldn't possibly
> > happen?
> >
> > Or would this be a kernel bug?
> >
> > If a bpf program can lead to a refcount not being put, this is not
> > upstreamable surely?
> >
> > > + *
> > > + * Return: The associated task_struct on success, or NULL on failure. Note that
> > > + * this function depends on CONFIG_MEMCG being enabled - it will always return
> > > + * NULL if CONFIG_MEMCG is not configured.
> > > + */
> > > +__bpf_kfunc struct task_struct *bpf_mm_get_task(struct mm_struct *mm)
> > > +{
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> > > +     struct task_struct *task;
> > > +
> > > +     if (!mm)
> > > +             return NULL;
> > > +     rcu_read_lock();
> > > +     task = rcu_dereference(mm->owner);
>
> Question to Yafang, though. Instead of adding new kfunc just for this,
> have you tried marking mm->owner as BTF_TYPE_SAFE_TRUSTED_OR_NULL,
> which, if I understand correctly, would allow BPF program to just work
> with `mm->owner` (after checking for NULL) directly. And then you can
> just use existing bpf_task_acquire()

good suggestion.
will change it.

>
> >
> > > +     if (!task)
> > > +             goto out;
> > > +     if (!refcount_inc_not_zero(&task->rcu_users))
> > > +             goto out;
>
> nit: just call bpf_task_acquire(), which will more obviously pair with
> suggested bpf_task_release()?

makes sense.

-- 
Regards
Yafang


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26  7:19 [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 01/10] mm: thp: add support for " Yafang Shao
2025-08-27  2:57   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-27 11:39     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:04       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 15:03   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  5:54     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:50       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:01         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31  3:11             ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 11:39               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-02  2:48                 ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-02  7:50                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-03  2:10                     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29  4:56   ` Barry Song
2025-08-29  5:36     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 02/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_mem_cgroup() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:34   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 20:50     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28 10:40       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 16:00         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-29 10:45           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:57     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:42       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:09         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 20:45   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28  6:58     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 03/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 21:50     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-28  6:50       ` Yafang Shao [this message]
2025-08-28 10:51       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:15         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:47     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:43       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 04/10] bpf: mark vma->vm_mm as trusted Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:12     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 11:11       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  3:05         ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31  3:16             ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 10:36               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 05/10] selftests/bpf: add a simple BPF based THP policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 06/10] selftests/bpf: add test case for khugepaged fork Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 07/10] selftests/bpf: add test case to update thp policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 08/10] selftests/bpf: add test cases for invalid thp_adjust usage Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 09/10] Documentation: add BPF-based THP adjustment documentation Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 10/10] MAINTAINERS: add entry for BPF-based THP adjustment Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  6:08     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  7:42 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26  8:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 12:06     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26  9:52   ` Usama Arif
2025-08-26 12:10     ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 12:03   ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 13:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  2:58   ` Yafang Shao

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