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From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Tim Hartrick <tim@edgecast.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:58:20 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALYGNiO9_bAVVZ2GdFq=PO2yV3LPs2utsbcb2pFby7MypptLCw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546CC0CD.40906@suse.cz>

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 03:36 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2014 12:02 AM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Andrew Morton
>>>>> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:41:57 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Because of the serial forking there does indeed end up being an
>>>>>>> > infinite number of vmas.  The initial vma can never be deleted
>>>>>>> > (even though the initial parent process has long since terminated)
>>>>>>> > because the initial vma is referenced by the children.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a finite number of VMAs, but an infite number of
>>>>>>> anon_vmas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subtle, yet deadly...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, we clearly have the data structures screwed up.  I've forgotten
>>>>>> enough about this code for me to be unable to work out what the fixed
>>>>>> up data structures would look like :( But surely there is some proper
>>>>>> solution here.  Help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if it's right but probably we could reuse on fork an old anon_vma
>>>>> from the chain if it's already lost all vmas which points to it.
>>>>> For endlessly forking exploit this should work mostly like proposed patch
>>>>> which stops branching after some depth but without magic constant.
>>>>
>>>> Something like this. I leave proper comment for tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Hmm I'm not sure that will work as it is. If I understand it correctly, your
>>> patch can detect if the parent's anon_vma has no own references at the fork()
>>> time. But at the fork time, the parent is still alive, it only exits after the
>>> fork, right? So I guess it still has own references and the child will still
>>> allocate its new anon_vma, and the problem is not solved.
>>
>> But it could reuse anon_vma from grandparent or older.
>> Count of anon_vmas in chain will be limited with count of alive processes.
>
> Ah I missed that it can reuse older anon_vma, sorry.
>
>> I think it's better to describe this in terms of sets of anon_vma
>> instead hierarchy:
>> at clone vma inherits pages from parent together with set of anon_vma
>> which they belong.
>> For new pages it might allocate new anon_vma or reuse existing. After
>> my patch vma
>> will try to reuse anon_vma from that set which has no vmas which points to it.
>> As a result there will be no parent-child relation between anon_vma and
>> multiple pages might have equal (anon_vma, index) pair but I see no
>> problems here.
>
> Hmm I wonder if root anon_vma should be excluded from this reusal. For
> performance reasons, exclusive pages go to non-root anon_vma (see
> __page_set_anon_rmap()) and reusing root anon_vma would change this.

This is simple, in my patch this can be reached by bumping its nr_vmas
by one and it'll never be reused.

> Also from reading http://lwn.net/Articles/383162/ I understand that correctness
> also depends on the hierarchy and I wonder if there's a danger of reintroducing
> a bug like the one described there.

If I remember right that was fixed by linking non-exclusively mapped pages to
root anon_vma instead of anon_vma from vma where fault has happened.
After my patch this still works. Topology hierarchy actually isn't used.
Here just one selected "root' anon_vma which dies last. That's all.

>
> Vlastimil
>
>>>
>>> So maybe we could detect that the own references dropped to zero when the parent
>>> does exit, and then change mapping of all relevant pages to the root anon_vma,
>>> destroy avc's of children and the anon_vma itself. But that sounds quite
>>> heavyweight :/
>>>
>>> Vlastimil
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-19 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20120816024610.GA5350@evergreen.ssec.wisc.edu>
2012-08-16 18:58 ` Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  0:03   ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  3:46     ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  4:07       ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  4:10         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20  8:00       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-08-20  9:39         ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 11:11           ` Andi Kleen
2012-08-20 11:17           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20 11:53             ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 19:11               ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:20           ` [RFC PATCH] " Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:29             ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-03 19:50               ` Daniel Forrest
2013-06-04 10:37                 ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-05 14:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-14 16:30                 ` [PATCH] " Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  0:02                   ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18  1:41                     ` Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  2:41                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-18 20:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18 22:15                           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 23:02                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 23:50                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 14:36                                 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 16:09                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 16:58                                     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov [this message]
2014-11-19 23:14                                       ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-20 14:42                                         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-20 14:50                                           ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-20 15:03                                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-24  7:09                                               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-25 10:59                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-25 12:13                                                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-25 15:00                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-26 17:35                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 15:44                                                         ` Jerome Marchand
2014-11-20 15:27                                           ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-19  2:48                           ` Rik van Riel

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