From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@google.com>
To: Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"kernel test robot" <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [linus:master] [mseal] 8be7258aad: stress-ng.pagemove.page_remaps_per_sec -4.4% regression
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 11:10:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALmYWFuXVCvAfrcDOCAR72z2_rmnm09QeVVqdhzqjF-fZ9ndUA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKbZUD3B03Zjex4STW8J_1VJhpsYb=1mnZL2-vSaW-CaZdzLiA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 6:33 AM Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 9:33 PM Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 01:59, kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > kernel test robot noticed a -4.4% regression of stress-ng.pagemove.page_remaps_per_sec on
> > > commit 8be7258aad44 ("mseal: add mseal syscall")
> >
> > Ok, it's basically just the vma walk in can_modify_mm():
> >
> > > 1.06 +0.1 1.18 perf-profile.self.cycles-pp.mas_next_slot
> > > 1.50 +0.5 1.97 perf-profile.self.cycles-pp.mas_find
> > > 0.00 +1.4 1.35 perf-profile.self.cycles-pp.can_modify_mm
> > > 3.13 +2.0 5.13 perf-profile.self.cycles-pp.mas_walk
> >
> > and looks like it's two different pathways. We have __do_sys_mremap ->
> > mremap_to -> do_munmap -> do_vmi_munmap -> can_modify_mm for the
> > destination mapping, but we also have mremap_to() calling
> > can_modify_mm() directly for the source mapping.
> >
> > And then do_vmi_munmap() will do it's *own* vma_find() after having
> > done arch_unmap().
> >
> > And do_munmap() will obviously do its own vma lookup as part of
> > calling vma_to_resize().
> >
> > So it looks like a large portion of this regression is because the
> > mseal addition just ends up walking the vma list way too much.
>
> Can we rollback the upfront checks "funny business" and just call
> can_modify_vma directly in relevant places? I still don't believe in
> the partial mprotect/munmap "security risks" that were stated in the
> mseal thread (and these operations can already fail for many other
> reasons than mseal) :)
>
In-place check and extra loop, implemented properly, will both prevent
changing to the sealed memory.
However, extra loop will make attacker difficult to call munmap(0,
random large-size), because if one of vma in the range is sealed, the
whole operation will be no-op.
> I don't mind taking a look myself, just want to make sure I'm not
> stepping on anyone's toes here.
>
One thing that you can't walk around is that can_modify_mm must be
called prior to arch_unmap, that means in-place check for the munmap
is not possible.
( There are recent patch / refactor by Liam R. Howlett in this area,
but I am not sure if this restriction is removed)
> --
> Pedro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-05 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-04 8:59 [linus:master] [mseal] 8be7258aad: stress-ng.pagemove.page_remaps_per_sec -4.4% regression kernel test robot
2024-08-04 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-05 13:33 ` Pedro Falcato
2024-08-05 18:10 ` Jeff Xu [this message]
2024-08-05 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-05 19:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-06 2:14 ` Michael Ellerman
2024-08-06 2:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-06 12:03 ` Michael Ellerman
2024-08-06 14:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-06 6:04 ` Oliver Sang
2024-08-06 14:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-05 19:37 ` Jeff Xu
2024-08-05 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-05 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-05 23:24 ` Nicholas Piggin
2024-08-06 0:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-08-06 1:22 ` Jeff Xu
2024-08-06 2:01 ` Michael Ellerman
2024-08-06 2:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-13 5:47 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-08-05 17:54 ` Jeff Xu
2024-08-05 13:56 ` Jeff Xu
2024-08-05 16:58 ` Jeff Xu
2024-08-06 1:44 ` Oliver Sang
2024-08-06 14:54 ` Jeff Xu
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