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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,  Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,  Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, memcg: provide an anon_reclaimable stat
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:37:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod65Ja8xc2QBPSOZpwzqL_JudO9e4A1qvXCMCxRoD1_52A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.23.453.2007161427360.3213701@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:28 PM David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>
> > > Userspace can lack insight into the amount of memory that can be reclaimed
> > > from a memcg based on values from memory.stat.  Two specific examples:
> > >
> > >  - Lazy freeable memory (MADV_FREE) that are clean anonymous pages on the
> > >    inactive file LRU that can be quickly reclaimed under memory pressure
> > >    but otherwise shows up as mapped anon in memory.stat, and
> > >
> > >  - Memory on deferred split queues (thp) that are compound pages that can
> > >    be split and uncharged from the memcg under memory pressure, but
> > >    otherwise shows up as charged anon LRU memory in memory.stat.
> > >
> > > Both of this anonymous usage is also charged to memory.current.
> > >
> > > Userspace can currently derive this information but it depends on kernel
> > > implementation details for how this memory is handled for the purposes of
> > > reclaim (anon on inactive file LRU or unmapped anon on the LRU).
> > >
> > > For the purposes of writing portable userspace code that does not need to
> > > have insight into the kernel implementation for reclaimable memory, this
> > > exports a stat that reveals the amount of anonymous memory that can be
> > > reclaimed and uncharged from the memcg to start new applications.
> > >
> > > As the kernel implementation evolves for memory that can be reclaimed
> > > under memory pressure, this stat can be kept consistent.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> > > ---
> > >  Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst |  6 +++++
> > >  mm/memcontrol.c                         | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  2 files changed, 37 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> > > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> > > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> > > @@ -1296,6 +1296,12 @@ PAGE_SIZE multiple when read back.
> > >                 Amount of memory used in anonymous mappings backed by
> > >                 transparent hugepages
> > >
> > > +         anon_reclaimable
> > > +               The amount of charged anonymous memory that can be reclaimed
> > > +               under memory pressure without swap.  This currently includes
> > > +               lazy freeable memory (MADV_FREE) and compound pages that can be
> > > +               split and uncharged.
> > > +
> > >           inactive_anon, active_anon, inactive_file, active_file, unevictable
> > >                 Amount of memory, swap-backed and filesystem-backed,
> > >                 on the internal memory management lists used by the
> > > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > > @@ -1350,6 +1350,32 @@ static bool mem_cgroup_wait_acct_move(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> > >         return false;
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +/*
> > > + * Returns the amount of anon memory that is charged to the memcg that is
> > > + * reclaimable under memory pressure without swap, in pages.
> > > + */
> > > +static unsigned long memcg_anon_reclaimable(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> > > +{
> > > +       long deferred, lazyfree;
> > > +
> > > +       /*
> > > +        * Deferred pages are charged anonymous pages that are on the LRU but
> > > +        * are unmapped.  These compound pages are split under memory pressure.
> > > +        */
> > > +       deferred = max_t(long, memcg_page_state(memcg, NR_ACTIVE_ANON) +
> > > +                              memcg_page_state(memcg, NR_INACTIVE_ANON) -
> > > +                              memcg_page_state(memcg, NR_ANON_MAPPED), 0);
> >
> > Please note that the NR_ANON_MAPPED does not include tmpfs memory but
> > NR_[IN]ACTIVE_ANON does include the tmpfs.
> >
> > > +       /*
> > > +        * Lazyfree pages are charged clean anonymous pages that are on the file
> > > +        * LRU and can be reclaimed under memory pressure.
> > > +        */
> > > +       lazyfree = max_t(long, memcg_page_state(memcg, NR_ACTIVE_FILE) +
> > > +                              memcg_page_state(memcg, NR_INACTIVE_FILE) -
> > > +                              memcg_page_state(memcg, NR_FILE_PAGES), 0);
> >
> > Similarly NR_FILE_PAGES includes tmpfs memory but NR_[IN]ACTIVE_FILE does not.
> >
>
> Ah, so this adds to the motivation of providing the anon_reclaimable stat
> because the calculation becomes even more convoluted and completely based
> on the kernel implementation details for both lazyfree memory and deferred
> split queues.

Yes, I agree.

> Did you have a calculation in mind for
> memcg_anon_reclaimable()?

 For deferred, "memcg->deferred_split_queue.split_queue_len" should be usable.

For lazyfree, NR_ACTIVE_FILE + NR_INACTIVE_FILE + NR_SHMEM -
NR_FILE_PAGES seems like the right formula.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-17  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-15  3:18 [patch] mm, memcg: provide a stat to describe reclaimable memory David Rientjes
2020-07-15  7:00 ` David Rientjes
2020-07-15  7:15   ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-15 17:33     ` David Rientjes
2020-07-16 20:58       ` [patch] mm, memcg: provide an anon_reclaimable stat David Rientjes
2020-07-16 21:07         ` Shakeel Butt
2020-07-16 21:28           ` David Rientjes
2020-07-17  1:37             ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2020-07-17  8:34         ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-17 14:39         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-07-15 13:10 ` [patch] mm, memcg: provide a stat to describe reclaimable memory Chris Down
     [not found]   ` <alpine.DEB.2.23.453.2007151046320.2788464@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
2020-07-17 12:17     ` Chris Down
2020-07-17 19:37       ` David Rientjes
2020-07-20  7:37         ` Michal Hocko

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