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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: "guanghui.fgh" <guanghuifeng@linux.alibaba.com>,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,  catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,
	 jianyong.wu@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	quic_qiancai@quicinc.com,  christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu,
	jonathan@marek.ca, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	 thunder.leizhen@huawei.com, anshuman.khandual@arm.com,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  rppt@kernel.org,
	geert+renesas@glider.be, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 yaohongbo@linux.alibaba.com,
	alikernel-developer@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] arm64: mm: fix linear mem mapping access performance degradation
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 19:09:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXEvY5QXOUrXZ7rBp9As=65uTTFRSSq+FPt-n4M2P-_VtQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220704163815.GA32177@willie-the-truck>

On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 18:38, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 10:34:07PM +0800, guanghui.fgh wrote:
> > Thanks.
> >
> > 在 2022/7/4 22:23, Will Deacon 写道:
> > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 10:11:27PM +0800, guanghui.fgh wrote:
...
> > > > Namely, it's need to use non block/section mapping for crashkernel mem
> > > > before shringking.
> > >
> > > Well, yes, but we can change arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres() not to do
> > > that if we're leaving the thing mapped, no?
> > >
> > I think we should use arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres for crashkernel mem.
> >
> > Because when invalid crashkernel mem pagetable, there is no chance to rd/wr
> > the crashkernel mem by mistake.
> >
> > If we don't use arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres to invalid crashkernel mem
> > pagetable, there maybe some write operations to these mem by mistake which
> > may cause crashkernel boot error and vmcore saving error.
>
> I don't really buy this line of reasoning. The entire main kernel is
> writable, so why do we care about protecting the crashkernel so much? The
> _code_ to launch the crash kernel is writable! If you care about preventing
> writes to memory which should not be writable, then you should use
> rodata=full.
>

This is not entirely true - the core kernel text and rodata are
remapped r/o in the linear map, whereas all module code and rodata are
left writable when rodata != full.

But the conclusion is the same, imo: if you can't be bothered to
protect a good chunk of the code and rodata that the kernel relies on,
why should the crashkernel be treated any differently?


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-04 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-02 15:57 [PATCH v4] arm64: mm: fix linear mem mapping access performance degradation Guanghui Feng
2022-07-04 10:35 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 10:58   ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 11:14     ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 12:05       ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 13:15         ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 13:41           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:11           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:23             ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 14:34               ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 16:38                 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 17:09                   ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2022-07-05  8:35                     ` Baoquan He
2022-07-05  9:52                     ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05 12:07                       ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 12:11                         ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05 12:27                           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 12:56                           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 13:17                             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 15:02                           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 15:34                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 15:57                               ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 17:05                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 20:45                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-06  2:49                                     ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06  7:43                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 10:04                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 13:54                                       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-06 15:18                                         ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:30                                           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:40                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-07 17:02                                             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-08 12:28                                             ` [PATCH RESEND " guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 13:44                                               ` [PATCH v5] " Guanghui Feng
2022-07-10 14:32                                                 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 15:33                                                 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-18 13:10                                                   ` Will Deacon
2022-07-25  6:46                                                     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05  2:44                   ` [PATCH v4] " guanghui.fgh

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