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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,  Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] crypto: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:41:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXHGb1GY2AFUYrzn484wf5SJSbMNgNcdmh=MrRvONakuBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yk1UJs6eZMoIp3Eh@arm.com>

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 10:49, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 08:53:33AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 00:57, Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 02:57:55PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN represents the minimum (static) alignment for safe DMA
> > > > operations while ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN is the minimum kmalloc() objects
> > > > alignment.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> > > > Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> > > > Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
> > > > ---
> > > >  include/linux/crypto.h | 2 +-
> > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/crypto.h b/include/linux/crypto.h
> > > > index 2324ab6f1846..654b9c355575 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/crypto.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/crypto.h
> > > > @@ -167,7 +167,7 @@
> > > >   * maintenance for non-coherent DMA (cache invalidation in particular) does not
> > > >   * affect data that may be accessed by the CPU concurrently.
> > > >   */
> > > > -#define CRYPTO_MINALIGN ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN
> > > > +#define CRYPTO_MINALIGN ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN
> > >
> > > I think this should remain as ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN with the
> > > comment above modified.  The reason is that we assume memory
> > > returned by kmalloc is already aligned to this value.
> > >
> > > Ard, you added the comment regarding the DMA requirement, so
> > > does anything actually rely on this? If they do, they now need
> > > to do their own alignment.
> >
> > This patch looks incorrect to me, as ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN is not
> > #define'd on all architectures.
>
> It is after the first patch:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220405135758.774016-2-catalin.marinas@arm.com/
>

I wasn't cc'ed on that :-)

> The series makes both ARCH_*_MINALIGN available irrespective of what an
> arch defines. If one needs guaranteed static alignment for DMA, use the
> DMA macro. If the minimum kmalloc() alignment is needed (e.g. to store
> some flags in the lower pointer bits), use the KMALLOC macro. I grep'ed
> through drivers/ and I've seen both cases (e.g.
> drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_execbuffer.c for the latter use-case).
>
> > But I am fine with the intent: ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN will be >=
> > ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN, and so the compile time layout of structs will
> > take the worst cast minimum DMA alignment into account, whereas their
> > placement in memory when they allocated dynamically may be aligned to
> > ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN only. Since the latter will be based on the
> > actual cache geometry, this should be fine.
>
> That's the idea.
>
> > Apart from the 'shash desc on stack' issue solved by the patch that
> > also introduced the above comment(660d2062190d), I've never looked
> > into the actual memory footprint of the crypto related data structures
> > resulting from this alignment, but it seems to me that /if/ this is
> > significant, we should be able to punt this to the drivers that
> > actually need this, rather than impose it for the whole system. (This
> > would involve over-allocating the context struct, and aligning up the
> > pointer in the various xxx_ctx() getters iff needed by the driver in
> > question)
>
> Since ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN on arm64 prior to this series is 128, there
> is any change to the crypto code.
>

No, not currently. But what I started looking into today is avoiding
the need to impose DMA alignment on every single data structure
allocated by the crypto API, even if it is never used for DMA or
touched by a device. That seems rather wasteful as well.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-06  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-05 13:57 [PATCH 00/10] mm, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN below the cache line size Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/slab: Decouple ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN from ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 23:59   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-06  8:53     ` Catalin Marinas
     [not found]     ` <CAK8P3a1K0=jwYEHVu=X7oAWk9dzaOYAdFsidwVRKCJVReSV3+g@mail.gmail.com>
2022-04-06 12:09       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08  6:42   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08  9:06     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-08  9:11     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-11 10:37   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-11 14:02     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] drivers/base: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-11 14:57   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-04-11 17:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 03/10] drivers/gpu: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 04/10] drivers/md: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 05/10] drivers/spi: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 14:05   ` Mark Brown
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 06/10] drivers/usb: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 07/10] crypto: " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 22:57   ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-06  6:53     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-06  8:49       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-06  9:41         ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2022-04-07  4:30         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-07 11:01           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 11:40             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-07 16:28               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08  3:25                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-08  9:04                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08  9:11                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12  9:32                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12  9:40                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12 10:02                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 10:18                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-12 12:31                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 22:01                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-13  8:47                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 19:53                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-14  5:38                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 13:52                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 14:27                                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 14:36                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 14:52                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-04-14 15:01                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 15:10                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 19:49                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-14 22:25                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15  6:03                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 11:09                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-16  9:42                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 19:07                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 19:33                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-14 14:30                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  6:51                                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15  7:49                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  7:51                                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15  8:05                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  8:12                                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15  9:51                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:04                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:12                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 10:22                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15 10:45                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 11:38                                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-17  8:08                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17  8:31                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:35                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17  8:50                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:58                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 16:30                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-18  8:37                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-18  9:19                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-18 16:44                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-19 21:50                                                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-20 10:36                                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 11:29                                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21  7:20                                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-21  7:36                                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21  7:44                                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-04-21  8:05                                                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-21 11:06                                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 12:28                                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 13:25                                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 13:47                                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-04-21 14:44                                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 14:47                                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-10 11:03                                                                       ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] crypto: Add helpers for allocating with DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] crypto: Prepare to move crypto_tfm_ctx Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] crypto: api - Add crypto_tfm_ctx_dma Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 17:10                                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-05-12  3:57                                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] crypto: aead - Add ctx helpers with DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] crypto: hash " Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] crypto: skcipher " Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] crypto: api - Increase MAX_ALGAPI_ALIGNMASK to 127 Herbert Xu
2022-05-10 11:07                                                                         ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] crypto: caam - Explicitly request DMA alignment Herbert Xu
2022-04-15 12:18                                             ` [PATCH 07/10] crypto: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-04-15 12:25                                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-15  9:51                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-15 12:31                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:11                                               ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17  8:38                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-17  8:43                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2022-04-17 16:29                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-15 22:23                                                       ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-07-16  3:25                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2022-07-18 17:53                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-09-21  0:47                                                             ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-09-30 18:32                                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-09-30 19:35                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-01 22:29                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-02 17:00                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-02 22:08                                                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-10-02 22:24                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-03 17:39                                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-12 17:45                                                                 ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-10-13 16:57                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-13 18:58                                                                     ` Saravana Kannan
2022-10-14 16:25                                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-10-14 20:23                                                                         ` Saravana Kannan
2022-10-14 20:44                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-16 21:37                                                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-12 10:20                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07  6:14   ` Muchun Song
2022-04-07  9:25     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 10:00       ` Muchun Song
2022-04-07 11:06         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm/slab: Allow dynamic kmalloc() minimum alignment Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07  3:46   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-07  8:50     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07  9:18       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-07  9:35         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 12:26           ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-11 11:55   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm/slab: Simplify create_kmalloc_cache() args and make it static Catalin Marinas
2022-04-05 13:57 ` [PATCH 10/10] arm64: Enable dynamic kmalloc() minimum alignment Catalin Marinas
2022-04-07 14:40 ` [PATCH 00/10] mm, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN below the cache line size Vlastimil Babka
2022-04-07 17:48   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-08 14:37     ` Vlastimil Babka

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