[LSF/MM ATTEND] Improving CMA

[LSF/MM ATTEND] Improving CMA

[Joonsoo Kim]

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:12:04PM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 05:54:14PM -0800, Laura Abbott wrote:
> > There have been a number of patch series posted designed to improve various
> > aspects of CMA. A sampling:
> > 
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/15/623
> > http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=141571797202006&w=2
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/26/549
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, these are all trying to fix real problems with CMA but
> > none of them have moved forward very much from what I can tell. The goal of
> > this session would be to come out with an agreement on what are the biggest
> > problems with CMA and the best ways to solve them.
> 
> I also tried to solve problem from CMA, that is, reserved memory
> utilization.
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/28/64
> 
> While playing that patchset, I found serious problem about free page
> counting, so I stopped to develop it for a while and tried to fix it.
> Now, it is fixed by me and I can continue my patchset.
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/31/69
> 
> I heard that Minchan suggests new CMA zone like movable zone, and, I
> think that it would be the way to go. But, it would be a long-term goal
> and I'd like to solve utilization problem with my patchset for now.
> It is the biggest issue and it already forces someone to develop
> out of tree solution. It's not good that out of tree solution is used
> more and more in the product so I'd like to fix it quickly at first
> stage.
> 
> I think that CMA have big potential. If we fix problems of CMA
> completely, it can be used for many places. One such case in my mind
> is hugetlb or THP. Until now, hugetlb uses reserved approach, that is
> very inefficient. System administrator carefully set the number of
> reserved hugepage according to whole system workload. And application
> can't use it freely, because it is very limited and managed resource.
> If we use CMA for hugetlb, we can easily allocate hugepage and
> application can use hugepages more freely.
> 
> Anyway, I'd like to attend LSF/MM and discuss this topic.

I change the subject according to LSF/MM attend request format.
What I can do and why I'd like to attend is explained above.
Sorry for noise.

Thanks.

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[LSF/MM ATTEND] Improving CMA

[Gioh Kim]

>
>
> 2014-11-27 i??i?? 3:12i?? Joonsoo Kim i?'(e??) i?' e,?:
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 05:54:14PM -0800, Laura Abbott wrote:
>>> There have been a number of patch series posted designed to improve various
>>> aspects of CMA. A sampling:
>>>
>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/15/623
>>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=141571797202006&w=2
>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/26/549
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, these are all trying to fix real problems with CMA but
>>> none of them have moved forward very much from what I can tell. The goal of
>>> this session would be to come out with an agreement on what are the biggest
>>> problems with CMA and the best ways to solve them.
>>
>> I also tried to solve problem from CMA, that is, reserved memory
>> utilization.
>>
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/28/64
>>
>> While playing that patchset, I found serious problem about free page
>> counting, so I stopped to develop it for a while and tried to fix it.
>> Now, it is fixed by me and I can continue my patchset.
>>
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/31/69
>>
>> I heard that Minchan suggests new CMA zone like movable zone, and, I
>> think that it would be the way to go. But, it would be a long-term goal
>> and I'd like to solve utilization problem with my patchset for now.
>> It is the biggest issue and it already forces someone to develop
>> out of tree solution. It's not good that out of tree solution is used
>> more and more in the product so I'd like to fix it quickly at first
>> stage.
>>
>> I think that CMA have big potential. If we fix problems of CMA
>> completely, it can be used for many places. One such case in my mind
>> is hugetlb or THP. Until now, hugetlb uses reserved approach, that is
>> very inefficient. System administrator carefully set the number of
>> reserved hugepage according to whole system workload. And application
>> can't use it freely, because it is very limited and managed resource.
>> If we use CMA for hugetlb, we can easily allocate hugepage and
>> application can use hugepages more freely.
>>
>> Anyway, I'd like to attend LSF/MM and discuss this topic.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> Until now, I've used CMA with 2 out-of-tree patches:
> 1. https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/31/313 : Laura's patch
> 2. https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/28/64 : Joonsoo's patch
>
> And one merged patch by me: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/9/4/78
>
> With them, my platform could've worked but it still had free-page-counting problem.
>
> I think if Joonsoo's patch [2] is merged into mainline, CMA can be stable and useful.
> Allocation latency Minchan mentioned is not problem for my platform.
> CMA allocation is not often and limited to only one drivers.
>
> Allocation guarantee is, I hope, fixed with my patch (https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/9/4/78) at least in my platform.
> My platform had worked for several hours but it lacks heavy load test.
> I have a plan to use CMA for massive product next year.
>
> I'd like to attend LSF/MM and discuss this topic too.

I'm sending LSF/MM attend request as Joonsoo did.
Thanks.

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[LSF/MM ATTEND] Improving CMA

[Hui Zhu]

Sorry for late.

I would like to attend LSF/MM this year; and most of all would like to
join Laura Abbott in his discussion of improving CMA.

I joined the develop works of CMA is not a long time after I joined the MI.
But to make it work good for our device.  I wrote a patch series to
improving CMA in https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/15/623.
I also used the patch series of Joonsoo in
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/28/64.  And I wrote some patches around
it:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/12/25/47
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/1/18/28
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/1/18/33

Thanks,
Hui

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