From: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 06:56:38 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANN689EdM6+64hsJgGMSF=6aA8hYJf_4FgdCy3FtqRtDAv87qw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131104073640.GF13030@gmail.com>
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> So I think it all really depends on the hit/miss cost difference. It makes
> little sense to add a more complex scheme if it washes out most of the
> benefits!
>
> Also note the historic context: the _original_ mmap_cache, that I
> implemented 16 years ago, was a front-line cache to a linear list walk
> over all vmas (!).
>
> Today we have the vma rbtree, which is self-balancing and a lot faster
> than your typical linear list walk search ;-)
>
> So I'd _really_ suggest to first examine the assumptions behind the cache,
> it being named 'cache' and it having a hit rate does in itself not
> guarantee that it gives us any worthwile cost savings when put in front of
> an rbtree ...
Agree. We have made the general case a lot faster, and caches in front
of it may not pull their weight anymore - the fact that we are
wondering how to even measure that, to me, means that we probably
shouldn't even bother. That's what I did when I implemented the
augmented rbtree to search for allocatable spaces between vmas: I
removed the cache for the last used gap, and nobody has complained
about it since. Absent some contrary data, I would actually prefer we
remove the mmap_cache as well.
And if a multiple-entry cache is necessary, I would also prefer it to
be LRU type rather than something ad-hoc (if there is a benefit to
caching the largest VMA, then LRU would capture that as well...)
--
Michel "Walken" Lespinasse
A program is never fully debugged until the last user dies.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-04 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-01 20:17 [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 20:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-01 21:11 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-03 9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 23:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-04 4:22 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2013-11-03 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 4:20 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 4:48 ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma) Al Viro
2013-11-05 2:49 ` 管雪涛
2013-11-11 7:25 ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was " Al Viro
2013-11-04 7:00 ` [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 18:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-05 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05 14:27 ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-06 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 14:03 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-11-03 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-04 4:04 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:56 ` Michel Lespinasse [this message]
2013-11-11 4:12 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 7:43 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:08 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-13 18:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 12:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 18:24 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 21:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
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