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From: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
To: "Michał Mirosław" <emmir@google.com>
Cc: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,  Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 kernel@collabora.com, Danylo Mocherniuk <mdanylo@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 3/6] fs/proc/task_mmu: Implement IOCTL to get and/or the clear info about PTEs
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 18:20:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANaxB-x2OrTPziL_hgwgQ1xe-ypVrvEJZK5i4ZvmUwsLqfTcvA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABb0KFGWi0dtgXZ-AeUuHb55EgnwTu3JfJ9cW3ftCqezKi8dAQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:42 AM Michał Mirosław <emmir@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 11:28, Muhammad Usama Anjum
> <usama.anjum@collabora.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Michał,
> >
> > Thank you so much for comment!
> >
> > On 2/17/23 8:18 PM, Michał Mirosław wrote:
> [...]
> > > For the page-selection mechanism, currently required_mask and
> > > excluded_mask have conflicting
> > They are opposite of each other:
> > All the set bits in required_mask must be set for the page to be selected.
> > All the set bits in excluded_mask must _not_ be set for the page to be
> > selected.
> >
> > > responsibilities. I suggest to rework that to:
> > > 1. negated_flags: page flags which are to be negated before applying
> > > the page selection using following masks;
> > Sorry I'm unable to understand the negation (which is XOR?). Lets look at
> > the truth table:
> > Page Flag       negated_flags
> > 0               0                       0
> > 0               1                       1
> > 1               0                       1
> > 1               1                       0
> >
> > If a page flag is 0 and negated_flag is 1, the result would be 1 which has
> > changed the page flag. It isn't making sense to me. Why the page flag bit
> > is being fliped?
> >
> > When Anrdei had proposed these masks, they seemed like a fancy way of
> > filtering inside kernel and it was straight forward to understand. These
> > masks would help his use cases for CRIU. So I'd included it. Please can you
> > elaborate what is the purpose of negation?
>
> The XOR is a way to invert the tested value of a flag (from positive
> to negative and the other way) without having the API with invalid
> values (with required_flags and excluded_flags you need to define a
> rule about what happens if a flag is present in both of the masks -
> either prioritise one mask over the other or reject the call).
> (Note: the XOR is applied only to the value of the flags for the
> purpose of testing page-selection criteria.)

Michał,

Your API isn't much different from the current one, but it requires
a bit more brain activity for understanding.

The current set of masks can be easy translated to the new one:
negated_flags = excluded_flags
required_flags_new = excluded_flags | required_flags

As for invalid values, I think it is an advantage of the current API.
I mean we can easily detect invalid values and return EINVAL. With your
API, such mistakes will be undetectable.

As for priorities, I don't see this problem here If I don't miss something.

We can rewrite the code this way:
```
if (required_mask && ((page_flags & required_mask) != required_mask)
  skip page;
if (anyof_mask && !(page_flags & anyof_mask))
  skip page;
if (page_flags & excluded_mask)
  skip page;
```

I think the result is always the same no matter in what order each
mask is applied.

Thanks,
Andrei


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-24  2:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-02 11:29 [PATCH v10 0/6] Implement IOCTL to get and/or the clear info about PTEs Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-02 11:29 ` [PATCH v10 1/6] userfaultfd: Add UFFD WP Async support Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-08 21:12   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 15:27     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-17  9:37   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-20  8:36     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-02 11:29 ` [PATCH v10 2/6] userfaultfd: update documentation to describe UFFD_FEATURE_WP_ASYNC Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-08 21:31   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 15:47     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-02 11:29 ` [PATCH v10 3/6] fs/proc/task_mmu: Implement IOCTL to get and/or the clear info about PTEs Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-08 22:15   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-13 12:55     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-13 21:42       ` Peter Xu
2023-02-14  7:57         ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-14 20:59           ` Peter Xu
2023-02-15 10:03             ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-15 21:12               ` Peter Xu
2023-02-17 10:39                 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
     [not found]   ` <Y+QgtVSEl4w2NgtJ@grain>
2023-02-13  8:19     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-17 10:10   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-20 10:38     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-20 11:38       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-20 13:17         ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-17 15:18   ` Michał Mirosław
2023-02-21 10:28     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-21 12:42       ` Michał Mirosław
2023-02-22 10:11         ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-22 10:44           ` Michał Mirosław
2023-02-22 11:06             ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-22 11:48               ` Michał Mirosław
2023-02-23  6:44                 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-23  8:41                   ` Michał Mirosław
2023-02-23  9:23                     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-23  9:42                       ` Michał Mirosław
2023-02-24  2:20         ` Andrei Vagin [this message]
2023-02-25  9:38           ` Michał Mirosław
2023-02-19 13:52   ` Nadav Amit
2023-02-20 13:24     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-22 19:10       ` Nadav Amit
2023-02-23  7:10         ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-23 17:11           ` Nadav Amit
2023-02-27 21:18             ` Peter Xu
2023-02-27 23:09               ` Nadav Amit
2023-02-28 15:55                 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-28 17:21                   ` Nadav Amit
2023-02-28 19:31                     ` Peter Xu
2023-03-01  1:59                       ` Nadav Amit
2023-02-20 13:26   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-21  7:02     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-02 11:29 ` [PATCH v10 4/6] tools headers UAPI: Update linux/fs.h with the kernel sources Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-02 11:29 ` [PATCH v10 5/6] mm/pagemap: add documentation of PAGEMAP_SCAN IOCTL Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-09 19:26   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-13 10:44     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-02-02 11:29 ` [PATCH v10 6/6] selftests: vm: add pagemap ioctl tests Muhammad Usama Anjum

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