From: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
P?draig Brady <P@draigbrady.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Stop kswapd consuming 100% CPU when highest zone is small
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:36:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAObL_7HpE3mCS90Zfa9-edBKPFN1MuBOHv+=e6BNHsi2u3zTOQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110721162417.GF1713@barrios-desktop>
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 05:09:59PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:37:22AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 03:44:53PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
>> > > (Built this time and passed a basic sniff-test.)
>> > >
>> > > During allocator-intensive workloads, kswapd will be woken frequently
>> > > causing free memory to oscillate between the high and min watermark.
>> > > This is expected behaviour. Unfortunately, if the highest zone is
>> > > small, a problem occurs.
>> > >
>> > > This seems to happen most with recent sandybridge laptops but it's
>> > > probably a co-incidence as some of these laptops just happen to have
>> > > a small Normal zone. The reproduction case is almost always during
>> > > copying large files that kswapd pegs at 100% CPU until the file is
>> > > deleted or cache is dropped.
>> > >
>> > > The problem is mostly down to sleeping_prematurely() keeping kswapd
>> > > awake when the highest zone is small and unreclaimable and compounded
>> > > by the fact we shrink slabs even when not shrinking zones causing a lot
>> > > of time to be spent in shrinkers and a lot of memory to be reclaimed.
>> > >
>> > > Patch 1 corrects sleeping_prematurely to check the zones matching
>> > > the classzone_idx instead of all zones.
>> > >
>> > > Patch 2 avoids shrinking slab when we are not shrinking a zone.
>> > >
>> > > Patch 3 notes that sleeping_prematurely is checking lower zones against
>> > > a high classzone which is not what allocators or balance_pgdat()
>> > > is doing leading to an artifical believe that kswapd should be
>> > > still awake.
>> > >
>> > > Patch 4 notes that when balance_pgdat() gives up on a high zone that the
>> > > decision is not communicated to sleeping_prematurely()
>> > >
>> > > This problem affects 2.6.38.8 for certain and is expected to affect
>> > > 2.6.39 and 3.0-rc4 as well. If accepted, they need to go to -stable
>> > > to be picked up by distros and this series is against 3.0-rc4. I've
>> > > cc'd people that reported similar problems recently to see if they
>> > > still suffer from the problem and if this fixes it.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Good!
>> > This patch solved the problem.
>> > But there is still a mystery.
>> >
>> > In log, we could see excessive shrink_slab calls.
>>
>> Yes, because shrink_slab() was called on each loop through
>> balance_pgdat() even if the zone was balanced.
>>
>>
>> > And as you know, we had merged patch which adds cond_resched where last of the function
>> > in shrink_slab. So other task should get the CPU and we should not see
>> > 100% CPU of kswapd, I think.
>> >
>>
>> cond_resched() is not a substitute for going to sleep.
>
> Of course, it's not equal with sleep but other task should get CPU and conusme their time slice
> So we should never see 100% CPU consumption of kswapd.
> No?
If the rest of the system is idle, then kswapd will happily use 100%
CPU. (Or on a multi-core system, kswapd will use close to 100% of one
CPU even if another task is using the other one. This is bad enough
on a desktop, but on a laptop you start to notice when your battery
dies.)
--Andy
>
>>
>> --
>> Mel Gorman
>> SUSE Labs
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Minchan Kim
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-21 16:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-24 14:44 [PATCH 0/4] Stop kswapd consuming 100% CPU when highest zone is small Mel Gorman
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: Correct check for kswapd sleeping in sleeping_prematurely Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 21:33 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-27 6:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-28 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-29 10:57 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-06-30 9:39 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-30 2:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: vmscan: Do not apply pressure to slab if we are not applying pressure to zone Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 21:40 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-28 23:38 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-30 2:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: vmscan: Evaluate the watermarks against the correct classzone Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 21:42 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-27 6:53 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-28 12:52 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-28 23:23 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-28 23:23 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: Only read new_classzone_idx from pgdat when reclaiming successfully Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 23:17 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-30 9:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-30 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-19 16:09 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-20 10:48 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 15:30 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:36 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 17:01 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 0:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-22 7:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 14:23 ` [PATCH 0/4] Stop kswapd consuming 100% CPU when highest zone is small Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-21 15:37 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:09 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:24 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:36 ` Andrew Lutomirski [this message]
2011-07-21 16:42 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:58 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-22 0:30 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-22 13:21 ` Andrew Lutomirski
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2011-06-24 13:43 Mel Gorman
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