From: Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Takahiro Akashi <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] shmgetfd idea
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:14:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPXgP13u+0PCFsRDRFqSdopDuXyAvZCS2crOCDrPoT6m8Nq2Og@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52E83AEB.4020809@zytor.com>
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:19 AM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>>
>> What would be the interface for additional functionality like
>> sealing/unsealing that thing, that no operation can destruct its
>> content as long as there is more than a single owner? That would be a
>> new syscall or fcntl() with specific shmemfd options?
>>
>> We also need to solve the problem that the inode does not show up in
>> /proc/$PID/fd/, so that nothing can create a new file for it which we
>> don't catch with the "single owner" logic. Or we could determine the
>> "single owner" state from the inode itself?
>>
>
> If the "single owner" is determined by the file structure (e.g. via a
> fcntl as opposed to a ioctl), then presumably we would simply deny an
> attempt to open the inode and create a new file structure for it.
>
> On Linux, /proc/$PID/fd is an open as opposed to a dup (as much as I
> personally don't like those semantics, they are well set in stone at
> this point) so it satisfies your requirements.
If that all could be made working, for the kdbus case we would be fine
with requiring *any* tmpfs mount, create a new memfd from there with
O_TMPFILE, and use new fcntl() definitios to protect/seal/unseal and
identify that fd.
For the more restricted cases like Android that tmpfs mount could get
a mount option to not allow the creation of any non-unlinked file, I
guess.
Kay
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-28 1:37 [RFC] shmgetfd idea John Stultz
2014-01-28 1:53 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 19:47 ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 3:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 19:56 ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 20:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 20:58 ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 21:05 ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 21:54 ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 22:14 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 23:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 23:14 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 23:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-29 0:14 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2014-01-29 0:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-29 0:49 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 23:14 ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 21:28 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-30 8:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-30 16:02 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-30 21:42 ` John Stultz
2014-01-31 0:01 ` Kay Sievers
2014-02-03 15:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
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