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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, mgorman@suse.de,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Describe race of direct read and fork for unaligned buffers
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 13:10:04 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPa8GCB7UGe0xr_pagbAJQAXn1t03m_8sraYxpkdbY1F3o7GRw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1205011952040.1293@eggly.anvils>

On 2 May 2012 13:04, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 May 2012, Nick Piggin wrote:
>> On 2 May 2012 03:56, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > In the light of all of the comments, can someone revise the man-pages
>> > patch that Jan sent?
>>
>> This does not quite describe the entire situation, but something understandable
>> to developers:
>>
>> O_DIRECT IOs should never be run concurrently with fork(2) system call,
>> when the memory buffer is anonymous memory, or comes from mmap(2)
>> with MAP_PRIVATE.
>>
>> Any such IOs, whether submitted with asynchronous IO interface or from
>> another thread in the process, should be quiesced before fork(2) is called.
>> Failure to do so can result in data corruption and undefined behavior in
>> parent and child processes.
>>
>> This restriction does not apply when the memory buffer for the O_DIRECT
>> IOs comes from mmap(2) with MAP_SHARED or from shmat(2).
>
> Nor does this restriction apply when the memory buffer has been advised
> as MADV_DONTFORK with madvise(2), ensuring that it will not be available
> to the child after fork(2).

Yes of course, I forgot that was exported too.

>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is that on the right track? I feel it might be necessary to describe this
>> allowance for MAP_SHARED, because some databases may be doing
>> such things, and anyway it gives apps a potential way to make this work
>> if concurrent fork + DIO is very important.
>
> Looks good, but we do need a reference to MADV_DONTFORK, perhaps as above.

Yep, thanks Hugh.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-02  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-30  9:30 [PATCH] Describe race of direct read and fork for unaligned buffers Jan Kara
2012-04-30 13:41 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-04-30 14:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-05-01  5:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-01  6:49 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-01 14:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 14:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 15:11     ` Jeff Moyer
2012-05-01 15:34       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 15:38         ` Jeff Moyer
2012-05-01 15:50           ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-01 23:51             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-05-02  8:17             ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02  9:09               ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-02  9:18                 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 19:14                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-02 19:23                     ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 19:25                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-05 11:28                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-05 15:29                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 23:10                             ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-09  5:35                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-09  7:01                                 ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-09  7:18                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-10 15:00                                     ` Jan Kara
2012-05-01 16:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-01 17:56   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-02  0:34     ` Nick Piggin
2012-05-02  3:04       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-02  3:10         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2012-05-02  9:20         ` Jan Kara

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