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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Rudoff, Andy" <andy.rudoff@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] New MAP_PMEM_AWARE mmap flag
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:56:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gTaikkXCG1fPBVT-0DE8Wst3icriUH5cbQH3thuEe-ow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56CC686A.9040909@plexistor.com>

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com> wrote:
> On 02/23/2016 11:52 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
[..]
> Please tell me what you find wrong with my approach?

Setting aside fs interactions you didn't respond to my note about
architectures where the pmem-aware app needs to flush caches due to
other non-pmem aware apps sharing the mapping.  Non-temporal stores
guaranteeing persistence on their own is an architecture specific
feature.  I don't see how we can have a generic support for mixed
MAP_PMEM_AWARE / unaware shared mappings when the architecture
dependency exists [1].

I think Christoph has already pointed out the roadmap.  Get the
existing crop of DAX bugs squashed and then *maybe* look at something
like a MAP_SYNC to opt-out of userspace needing to call *sync.

[1]: 10.4.6.2 Caching of Temporal vs. Non-Temporal Data
"Some older CPU implementations (e.g., Pentium M) allowed addresses
being written with a non-temporal store instruction to be updated
in-place if the memory type was not WC and line was already in the
cache."

I wouldn't be surprised if other architectures had similar constraints.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-21 17:03 [RFC 0/2] New MAP_PMEM_AWARE mmap flag Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 17:04 ` [RFC 1/2] mmap: Define a new " Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 17:06 ` [RFC 2/2] dax: Support " Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 19:51 ` [RFC 0/2] New " Dan Williams
2016-02-21 20:24   ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 20:57     ` Dan Williams
2016-02-21 21:23       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-21 22:03         ` Dan Williams
2016-02-21 22:31           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-22  9:57             ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-22 15:34             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 17:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 17:58                 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 18:03                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 18:52                     ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23  9:45                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-22 20:05                 ` Rudoff, Andy
2016-02-23  9:52                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-23 10:07                     ` Rudoff, Andy
2016-02-23 12:06                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 17:10                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 21:47                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 22:15                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 23:28                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-24  0:08                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 14:10                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 16:56                       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2016-02-23 17:05                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 17:26                           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 21:55                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 22:33                           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:07                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 23:23                               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:40                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-24  0:08                                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 23:28                             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 23:34                               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-23 23:43                                 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 23:56                                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-24  4:09                                     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-24 19:30                                       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-25  9:46                                         ` Jan Kara
2016-02-25  7:44                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-24 15:02                                     ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-24 22:56                                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 16:24                                         ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 19:11                                           ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 20:15                                             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 20:57                                               ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 22:27                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-26  4:02                                                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-26 10:04                                                     ` Thanumalayan Sankaranarayana Pillai
2016-02-28 10:17                                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-03-03 17:38                                                         ` Howard Chu
2016-02-29 20:25                                                   ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-25 21:08                                               ` Phil Terry
2016-02-25 21:39                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-25 21:20                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-29 20:32                                             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-23 17:25                       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-23 22:47                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-22 21:50               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-23 13:51               ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-02-23 14:22                 ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-22 11:05           ` Boaz Harrosh
2016-03-11  6:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 19:07   ` Dan Williams
2016-03-11 19:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 23:02       ` Rudoff, Andy

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