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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	mauricio.porto@hpe.com, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Fix mmap MAP_POPULATE for DAX pmd mapping
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:01:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4ikJ73nzQTCOfnBRThkv=rZGPM76S7=6O3LSB4kQBeEpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1449078237.31589.30.camel@hpe.com>

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com> wrote:
> Oh, I see.  I will setup the memmap array and run the tests again.
>
> But, why does the PMD mapping depend on the memmap array?  We have observed
> major performance improvement with PMD.  This feature should always be enabled
> with DAX regardless of the option to allocate the memmap array.
>

Several factors drove this decision, I'm open to considering
alternatives but here's the reasoning:

1/ DAX pmd mappings caused crashes in the get_user_pages path leading
to commit e82c9ed41e8 "dax: disable pmd mappings".  The reason pte
mappings don't crash and instead trigger -EFAULT is due to the
_PAGE_SPECIAL pte bit.

2/ To enable get_user_pages for DAX, in both the page and huge-page
case, we need a new pte bit _PAGE_DEVMAP.

3/ Given the pte bits are hard to come I'm assuming we won't get two,
i.e. both _PAGE_DEVMAP and a new _PAGE_SPECIAL for pmds.  Even if we
could get a _PAGE_SPECIAL for pmds I'm not in favor of pursuing it.

End result is that DAX pmd mappings must be fully enabled through the
get_user_pages paths with _PAGE_DEVMAP or turned off completely.  In
general I think the "page less" DAX implementation was a good starting
point, but we need to shift to page-backed by default until we can
teach more of the kernel to operate on bare pfns.  That "default" will
need to be enforced by userspace tooling.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-02 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-23 20:04 [PATCH] mm: Fix mmap MAP_POPULATE for DAX pmd mapping Toshi Kani
2015-11-23 20:53 ` Dan Williams
2015-11-23 22:15   ` Toshi Kani
2015-11-30 22:08 ` Dan Williams
2015-12-02  2:19   ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02  3:45     ` Dan Williams
2015-12-02 17:43       ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02 17:01         ` Dan Williams [this message]
2015-12-02 18:06           ` Dan Williams
2015-12-02 19:26             ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02 19:00               ` Dan Williams
2015-12-02 20:02                 ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02 20:12                   ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02 19:57                     ` Dan Williams
2015-12-02 21:37                       ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02 20:54                         ` Dan Williams
2015-12-02 21:55                           ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-03 23:43                             ` Dan Williams
2015-12-04 16:55                               ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02 22:00                           ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-02 22:03                             ` Dan Williams
2015-12-02 22:09                               ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-03  0:21         ` Toshi Kani
2015-12-02 23:33           ` Dan Williams

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